As a Lawyer, You Sent the Judge In?

Chapter 402: Don’t say anything, just judge!

 At the judgment seat.

Chu Changhe, as the presiding judge, also believed that Yu Cheng directly refuted the other party's claims during the trial without any judgment, and believed that the other party's claims were unreasonable.

　This.…

　　There is indeed something inappropriate about it.

 Because all the plaintiff’s claims are based on the determination of unfair competition.

 Now, at the trial, the plaintiff only stated this situation and relevant evidence.

 Stated the demands of this court hearing.

 In fact, there has been no discussion as to whether the defendant committed unfair competition.

 Even speaking...

 It may also be determined to be fair competition.

 In this case, the defendant directly rebuts the claim.

 Very unreasonable.

 So let’s look at this situation.

 It is estimated that the defendants knew very well that they were indeed involved in unfair competition.

 There is no room for too much refutation.

  Let’s start the discussion directly from the perspective of demands.

 Clear this relationship and sort out the relevant evidence.

Chu Changhe looked at the defendant’s seat at Chenggong Law Firm and said:

“The defendant, Chenggong Law Firm, currently, the evidence submitted by the plaintiff to accuse you of rumors and unfair competition includes—”

“The communication between Chenggong Law Firm, lawyers Yu Cheng and Li Ming and the media person in charge involved intentional slander.”

"And it shows that you have the intention of unfair competition."

“Do you have any objection to the above evidence?”

“Or do you admit that you have engaged in unfair competition?”

Li Ming, as a lawyer involved in this aspect, responded when the presiding judge asked.

“We have no objection to the above evidence.”

 “We acknowledge that there are instances of unfair competition.”

Li Ming did not make much refutation of unfair competition.

 He knows that there is no point in rebutting, so he can only start from the appeal.

Li Ming continued: "But in terms of identification of other aspects, we have content that we want to express and state."

“Is there anything you want to express?” Chu Changhe asked.

 Li Ming lowered his head and glanced at the materials before continuing: "In the evidence provided by the plaintiff."

“The evidence involved is all real evidence, and we cannot refute this.”

“However, in terms of unfair competition, we believe that we are not involved in serious unfair competition.”

 “Can you state it in detail?”

 “The chief judge who can.”

Li Ming continued to speak:

“When we contacted those media, we mainly wanted to enhance the reputation of our successful law firm.”

“It did mention Bai Jun Law Firm, and also talked about some situations in the industry.”

"But.…"

“We talked about the situation in the industry and mentioned Bai Jun Law Firm, which informed the media of the fact of spreading rumors.”

 “It’s not as serious as the spread on the Internet.”

“The slander against Bai Jun Law Firm on the Internet is beyond our control.”

“For example, I think Baijun Law Firm is a black-hearted law firm.”

“Our law firm has never expressed this view.”

“So from this aspect, we do not agree that serious unfair competition is involved.”

“We believe that this kind of unfair competition is just an ordinary business method.”

“It does not involve the lawyer personally, so it is included in the litigation claims put forward by the plaintiff.”

“We do not agree with the view that the licenses of two lawyers from Chenggong Law Firm need to be revoked.”

 After listening to Li Ming’s statement, Chu Changhe organized his statement and then spoke:

“According to the statement of the lawyer entrusted by the defendant.”

“You believe that you did not think of it subjectively at the beginning and did not foresee such serious consequences.”

 “At the beginning, subjectively, I just wanted to improve the reputation of my law firm.”

“We roped in several media outlets and used Baijun Law Firm’s reputation in short videos to make comparisons.”

“Is this what you mean by improving the reputation of your law firm from this point of view?”

"Yes."

Li Ming nodded.

 The presiding judge made a good statement.

 Just listen to Chu Changhe continue to ask: "You just took the initiative to admit that you are suspected of unfair competition."

"Is it right?"

"Yes."

Li Ming nodded and admitted that there was unfair competition on his side.

 After all, the evidence is now in front of us.…

 According to the conditions for the formation of unfair competition, they have indeed formed unfair competition.

Even if this point is refuted in court, the presiding judge will not accept their opinions.

 Just admit it directly.

Faced with Li Ming’s direct admission, Chu Changhe continued to speak:

“Then the lawyer entrusted by the defendant can talk about it in detail. What do you think are not subjectively serious situations? What do you mean specifically?”

 Li Ming: “What I mean specifically is that Yu Cheng and I have certain subjective faults in this regard.”

"But.…"

“The two of us were not involved in serious violations of lawyers’ professional ethics and professional standards.”

 “And.…”

“While the media released the rumor-mongering video, we only said hello to the media and talked about the relevant situation.”

“For example, in the chat records, I hope the media can compare our law firm with Baijun Law Firm.”

 “Let’s get into the perspective of Bai Jun Law Firm from a certain aspect.”

  “Such as this.”

"But the relevant content is the rumor-mongering content added by the people in charge of West District Urban Media, West District Minsheng Media, and Tianyu Media in order to achieve better traffic effects."

 “It means that they have magnified the content of the rumors.”

“It has caused the reputation of Baijun Law Firm and suffered serious damage.”

 “This has nothing to do with us.”

 “This is what we want to state.”

“Okay, let me ask the defendant again, does the defendant Chenggong Law Firm subjectively want to use Lata Baijun Law Firm to enhance its reputation?”

 “Yes, Judge.”

Facing Li Ming’s response, Chu Changhe nodded and looked at the plaintiff’s seat:

“Does the plaintiff have anything to say?”

 “There is a chief judge.”

Su Bai nodded: "We don't agree with the other party's statement."

Su Bai completely disagreed with Li Ming's answer.

Why?

 Because Li Ming's answer completely distanced himself from the relationship and pointed the finger at the media. Is the media at fault?

have!

 But who informed the media in the first place?

　　 are Yu Cheng and Li Ming.

 So from this point of view, the two of them have no relationship at all!

Su Bai continued to state:

"first.…"

“The defendant’s stated view is that they are not involved in serious unfair competition.”

“What is serious unfair competition, and what is non-involved serious unfair competition?”

“I’m sorry, I can’t understand the arguments of the lawyer appointed by the defendant.”

  “But it is evident from its explanation.”

“They believe that the media acted on their own initiative to smear it, causing greater damage to the image of Baijun Law Firm.”

 “But what about actually?”

 “Actually, it depends on the subjective approach at the beginning.”

“The presiding judge also asked just now that the defendant did have the subjective intention to deliberately suppress Baijun Law Firm in order to engage in unfair competition.”

“That shows that Yu Cheng and Li Ming, as two partner lawyers of Chenggong Law Firm, had the idea of ​​unfair competition from the very beginning.”

“So all media outlets were notified.”

 “The fact that the media spread and fabricated rumors.”

“If Yu Cheng and Li Ming had not informed the media, they would have informed the media through personal friendship and relationships.”

“Will the reputation of Baijun Law Firm be damaged?”

"Won't!"

“In short, in this case, the reputation of Baijun Law Firm has been seriously damaged.”

 “The main point is...”

“Two lawyers, Yu Cheng and Li Ming, from Chenggong Law Firm know the law and break it.”

“When, as a lawyer, you know that spreading rumors will cause damage to your personal reputation or goodwill to others or other entities, which is an illegal act.”

 “Still instigating or spreading rumors through one’s own personal relationships, spreading rumors.”

“We believe that this behavior has reached a serious level.”

“So we believe that there is nothing excessive in the claims we have made, nor are there any excessive or inconsistent circumstances.”

Su Bai’s statement focused on the serious mistakes made by Li Ming and Yu Cheng of Chenggong Law Firm.

Su Bai has carefully considered the litigation claims involved in this case.

 There is no doubt about compensation and public apology.

 Chenggong Law Firm must compensate and publicly apologize to Bai Jun Law Firm.

 The remaining two are to revoke the law licenses of Yu Cheng and Li Ming, and to require Chenggong Law Firm to suspend operations for several months.

 This... is the most unacceptable thing for Yu Cheng and Li Ming.

So then again.

 How is this determined?

 This point depends on the consequences involved and the subjective severity.

  This is the issue just discussed by Su Bai as the plaintiff and Li Ming as the defendant.

In response to Su Bai’s statement, Li Ming spoke again:

“We still disagree with the plaintiff’s statement.”

 “We emphasize again.”

“We did engage in unfair competition in this case.”

“However, we do not have such serious malicious intent subjectively, and we did not expect such consequences.”

Su Bai smiled. Did he not expect such a consequence?

 How could you not have expected it?

in other words.

 At that time, Yu Cheng and Li Ming hoped that there would be more serious consequences.

 Because the greater the damage to the reputation of Baijun Law Firm, the more beneficial it is to their success as a law firm.

 So it is simply impossible and unrealistic to say that such consequences were not expected.

  On the other hand.…

 Will the court and the presiding judge adopt this argument?

Neither will!

Su Bai smiled and retorted: "I would like to ask, what does the defendant's lawyer mean when he says there is no serious malice?"

 “Can it be stated more clearly?”

　　Li Ming: "Yes, what we stated was not that serious of malice. What I mean is that we did not expect such a big consequence."

“Because Chenggong Law Firm is a small law firm, after the second instance verdict was changed in Dong Guoguo’s case, the first thing I thought about was to improve my reputation.”

 “There’s nothing wrong with that.”

“In addition, the victim entrusted a lawyer from Bai Jun Law Firm.”

“We want to enhance our reputation, and adding Baijun Law Firm will definitely have a positive effect on the reputation of a successful law firm.”

"but.…"

“We did not expect that the comments about Bai Jun Law Firm would cause such a big loss. We apologize for this and are willing to compensate.”

 Typical I am wrong but I am right?

I didn’t want things to turn out like this, but it happened to turn out like this. Can this be my fault?

  What kind of strange statement is this?

Su Bai did not take up the topic of Li Ming's willingness to compensate, but asked a question:

“The lawyer entrusted by the defendant stated that he did not expect such a large and serious consequence.”

“Then I would like to ask the lawyer appointed by the defendant.”

“During the entire process of rumors and reputation infringement of Baijun Law Firm, didn’t you realize that the impact was too great?”

 “Why wasn’t there any stoppage?”

"Or.…"

“Why do you continue to choose to enhance your reputation when Bai Jun Law Firm has suffered such a huge loss?”

 “You know, when Bai Jun Law Firm suffered its most reputational crisis.”

“Many media are comparing Baijun Law Firm with Chenggong Law Firm.”

“The evidence shows that this is the default behavior of successful law firms.”

“The defendant said that you did not expect such a big consequence. Where did this point of view come from?”

“The evidence clearly shows that Cheng Cheng Law Firm added fuel to the fire, and the defendant also stated that you did not expect such serious consequences.”

 “Who believes it?!”

“I would like to ask the defendant to entrust a lawyer to stop deceiving himself.”

 “You are subjectively maliciously smearing me.”

“The video spreading rumors about Bai Jun Law Firm has a total of tens of millions of views and retweets.”

 “Successful law firms bear the primary responsibility for this.”

“Two lawyers, Yu Cheng and Li Ming from Chenggong Law Firm, are also primarily responsible!”

“Based on the above, I would like to ask the presiding judge to make relevant judgments on liability issues based on the existing evidence!”

 At present, everything that should be expressed has been expressed.

 The evidence that should be presented has also been presented.

 What is the point that the defendant wants to express?

The point I want to express is that they don’t have that much responsibility, it’s all the media’s fault.

 But just now, Su Bai had already explained this situation in detail.

The defendant could not come up with any other strong defense content.

 It is of no great significance to continue to defend this topic.

Simply.…

 Judgment directly!

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 (End of this chapter)