Chinese entertainment for engineering students

Chapter 195 Exclusive Interview (3)

"I want to ask a question that audience members are particularly concerned about, that is, can this material be practical? When will it be practical?" Shui Junyi asked some personal questions one by one, and after answering the questions, he jumped out of the project development process and started Ask what your real audience cares about.

"You've been holding this question back for a long time," Teacher Duan joked.

"That's not really true. When it comes to interviews, you have to proceed step by step." Shui Junyi is not a newbie. He has interviewed many heavyweights in the Gulf at such a young age.

"Well, let Wang Xu talk about this question. Last time we talked about this, he knocked us all out. Let him talk to you too." Teacher Duan smiled and declined.

He knew that he had already been in the limelight enough today, and he knew who the higher-ups wanted to praise. The benefits you can gain from this deal are enough, you can’t go too far.

"That's right, let Wang Xu say it. He's not just flattering him. He really has a long-term view on this thing." Zhang Hongyu really admired Wang Xu, and he naturally spared no effort to support him. Engineering students are actually very easy to deal with and professional. In a fight, whoever is stronger will listen to whoever is stronger.

"Then let me talk about it, first whether it can be practical. My answer is yes, definitely yes, but not now." Wang Xu nodded and gave a firm answer.

"What about the time?" Shui Junyi asked.

"I don't know. No one knows. We still need to invest energy in research. No one knows when the results will be produced." Wang Xu shook his head.

Shui Junyi was silent and looked up at the two braggarts. Is this how you talk to people and make them faint? It couldn't be that he was knocked unconscious. Go back and cut that section.

"Professor Duan, what do you think?"

"My views are consistent with Wang Xu's." Lao Duan is also a good person. If Wang Xu doesn't say anything, it must be because of his considerations. Since he can't say it, it's best not to say it.

In his mind, the importance of Wang Xu's speech that he recorded last time increased to another level. At the same time, he turned his head and gave his doctoral student a warning look.

"Where's classmate Zhang?"

"I agree with Wang Xu." Zhang Hongyu is also a good person. When he saw Professor Duan's warning eyes, he immediately understood.

Yes, it seems that these three people do not intend to continue talking about this aspect. Shui Junyi is not a fool. There must be something that cannot be said, otherwise he would not have caused such a fuss.

But it’s very simple. Just go back and cut this entire section out, and just ask for the rest.

"Then let's change the question, Professor Duan. As one of the first batch of people to study in the United States after China's reform, what do you think of the current craze for going abroad?" Shui Junyi changed the direction of the question. The interview cannot be limited to one project. We also need to ask some hot-button questions and discuss our opinions.

"Going abroad is a good thing. If you are poor, you will change, and if you change, you will be successful. It's good to go out and see and learn. If I had never gone abroad, I wouldn't even be able to use a scanning electron microscope. Even if I had this opportunity, I wouldn't be able to take it. Stay." Professor Duan was obviously very emotional.

“So would you encourage your students to go out?”

"Xiao Zhang? He is already a doctoral student. There is little point in going out. Even if he is a postdoc, it is a waste of time. If they are undergraduates or graduate students, I will encourage them to go out." Professor Duan answered decisively.

"Would you persuade them to come back?"

"Of course I will, you don't know how lacking I am here."

"Aren't you afraid that students will never come back?"

"What's scary? If you go and never come back, you will come back. If you don't come back today, you will come back in the future.

As the boss said, if you go out a hundred times and come back, you will make a profit. "Professor Duan is a loyal admirer of the boss, and Wang Xu and the others have known it for a long time.

"There is a lot of heated discussion about this issue in the society. Many people think that Shuimu, as the highest university, has a large number of students going abroad every year, but very few return. What do you think of this issue?" Shui Junyi asked a very pointed question.

Wang Xu was in a daze. This issue was also discussed in his previous life 30 years later. As everyone knows, this issue has actually been discussed for a round in the 1990s. However, the people participating in the discussion at this time are still professional media, and they still have some moral integrity.

Wang Xu remembered that people on the Internet later scolded Shuimu. As an alumnus, Wang Xu was naturally very angry, so he asked in the class alumni group,

"People are criticizing Mizuki on the Internet, what do you think?"

"Actions speak louder than words." This was the only answer given in the group. It was very watery and very engineering.

After that, Wang Xu stopped paying attention to any discussions related to Shuimu, let alone started scolding online, because he also felt it was childish, and even asking in the group seemed childish.

Hearing the familiar question at this time, Wang Xu suddenly felt a little funny.

"Then we have to go out. If we don't go out, we won't know anything. What will happen if we don't go out?"

"But most of the people who went out didn't come back."

"Not coming back is helpful. Most of the research funds for international cooperation in China are now brought back by those who have not come back.

They did stay overseas in order to have a better life, and even became foreigners. To use the words in the current newspapers, they are very selfish.

But they are also helping us objectively. I don’t know about others. Without those people, we would not be able to buy our scanning electron microscope. Anyway, I personally have no position to criticize them.

What's more, how do you know that they won't come back in the future?

By the way, you'd better deal with this paragraph. I'm afraid it will affect their lives overseas and the purchase of similar equipment in the future. "

Professor Duan's face showed some sadness and anger, but also some helplessness. He himself was back. But there are also many friends who have stayed overseas, and even his own ex-wife has not come back.

He really has no position to refute. In the words of later generations, your wife has betrayed the country, how can you still be a good person?

Wang Xu knew something about Professor Duan. After all, this scanning electron microscope was still quite new. His successful introduction demonstrated his personal ability.

In these days, being able to successfully introduce equipment is an ability in itself, so Wang Xu also asked Senior Zhang about some of Professor Duan's stories. But Wang Xu had never heard of his wife's story. After all, Senior Zhang was just a student.

However, Professor Duan still went on to describe the process of introducing the scanning electron microscope. After all, he was dealing with reporters from China Channel, and I believed he would handle the issue of whether it could be broadcast.

According to Professor Duan’s explanation, the introduction of this set of electron microscopes was actually stuck. The approval process alone took a year. Both the department and Professor Duan submitted many appeal materials but failed to pass.

Later, his original mentor wrote a letter saying that this thing was indeed for scientific research. With this endorsement, the electron microscope was successfully introduced.

This letter was obtained from his ex-wife who stayed overseas and helped him find a mentor.

She also studied abroad at her own expense, and was a student of the same tutor as Professor Duan. When Professor Duan returned to China, he divorced her peacefully.

She stayed in the United States and now works as a teaching assistant at her original university.

A very ordinary love story, if there are no introduced things, it would be as calm as countless such stories.

But the addition of such a device makes the story a little more dramatic.

Wang Xu didn't know what the woman was thinking, whether it was for love, for the country, or just to feel a little sorry for her ex-husband.

Anyway, this is the result. I continue to hold a green card, work as a teaching assistant, do research, publish papers, and live a comfortable life.

Professor Duan's electron microscope successfully entered customs and was indeed used for scientific research without causing any trouble. Instead, he made great achievements, which made him very proud. Even his mentor called him back yesterday to congratulate him.

Well, that's right, in this era, the Ugly Congress got the "Science" magazine earlier than in the country, and more than one day earlier.

In this grand historical era, this matter is really small, but it has a profound impact on the Department of Materials. Mizuki's other electron microscopes are very old and probably won't be used for a few years, but this one is the latest model and can still be used for a long time.

Wang Xu listened to Professor Duan's story without any disturbance in his heart. There are too many such things in this era. If there are no accidents, there will be a movie "The Big Brother" released this year, starring Ge You and Xu Fan, and it tells the story of divorce after going abroad.

In such an era, such a story happened, and the story performed only recorded this era.

When the times develop, stories are just stories. People in the new era will no longer understand the era in the story, so there are new stories.

As Du Mu of the Tang Dynasty said in "A Fang Gong Fu", "Future generations will grieve and ignore it, which will also make future generations grieve for future generations again."

Wang Xu thought about similar words in later generations, curled his lips, and had no desire to answer. This question definitely did not require him to answer.

After all, in his current status, he has a good foundation and an education that he received entirely in China. He is also extremely corrupt and ugly, and he is one of the most powerful ones.

No matter whether it was 20 years ago or 30 years later, no one could criticize him.

The atmosphere was a little heavy. Shui Junyi found that his question just now was not good and his answer was a little overdue. The expected scenario of giving up a high salary and coming back from overseas, making major achievements and slapping overseas professors in the face, did not happen.

Although there was no help from overseas funds, this key equipment was purchased overseas, and the purchase was not smooth. We even got help from people staying overseas, which is not something to boast about.

And just as Professor Duan was worried, it would be bad if such broadcasting would affect the purchase of equipment in the future. The narrowing down of opinions cannot really affect development.

Therefore, Shui Junyi decided to change another current hot issue, education. After all, there was a genius here who was educated in China. He could give it a try.

"Classmate Wang Xu, there has been a discussion in the newspapers recently about the comparison of education at home and abroad. Have you heard about it?" Shui Junyi asked a forward-looking question first, so as not to be confused.

"Yes, I understand." Wang Xu nodded. This issue was also an extremely hotly discussed issue in the early 1990s. This was the era when primary school students were most popular. Various short compositions were published in many newspapers and periodicals. Reporting facts.

You know, there is no Baidu, Google, or countless people who have lived abroad for a long time to help you refute rumors. Therefore, the people will believe whatever is written in the newspaper. Back in this era, Wang Xu often saw such small compositions.

As for why the West is so advanced and the country is so developed, what went wrong with education is the most hotly debated era. Quality education, happiness education, and interest education were all introduced to the country at this time.

Many people in the education field go abroad for inspections with a pragmatic attitude without knowing the causes and consequences, let alone the development history.

What I saw was an advanced and peaceful school. The children grew up happily. When they came back, they naturally boasted about the advancement of Western educational concepts.

Then the country also followed suit. Anyway, the moon in the west is rounder, which is the consensus in this era.

You see, it’s such a mess.

Sometimes the west wind prevails over the east wind, and sometimes the east wind overpowers the west wind.

Even at the same time, these two phenomena actually appeared on different issues at the same time. How can it be a messed up word.

This was the 1990s, and Wang Xu, who returned to the old days, enjoyed watching it anyway.

In fact, it was this kind of chaos that created the vitality of the 1990s, when all kinds of ideas collided wildly and violently, madly occupying every brain, leaving everyone trapped in it and unable to extricate themselves.

If you don’t believe it, carefully observe whether the people around you who have experienced this era, especially those with high academic qualifications, have an almost nagging tangle with overseas.

One moment I love her to the point of death, and the next I hate it so much that I gnash my teeth. It’s even more bloody than the Korean drama Qiong Liaozhu.

Wang Xu's thinking is very simple. The most important rule that engineering students should remember is, "Practice is the only criterion for testing truth." It is simple and crude, but unbreakable.

Should we send them abroad? Yes, because later generations have proven that only by sending them abroad can we bring back money and technology.

Should we engage in quality education? No, because later generations have proven that the college entrance examination is the only fair way to be promoted.

"Then do you think quality education should be promoted in China?" Shui Junyi asked his question calmly.

“I don’t know much about quality education. Quality education is about studying Ugly Country. Since it’s about learning, I think I have a better say.

No matter what you study, you should choose the right one and study it correctly. I don’t know if it’s right, but I have to at least make sure it’s harmless. "Wang Xu's tone was as slow and lazy as ever, and there was no longer the excitement at the beginning. The excitement will last for a while. People in the Imperial City are lazy in nature.

"You're right, so how do you distinguish between good, bad, and harmless?" Shui Junyi was obviously also intrigued by Wang Xu's opening remarks.

"It is easy to distinguish whether it is good or bad. Practice is the only criterion for testing truth. You will know just by looking at the results of implementation." Wang Xu said calmly.

"You mean, we should look at educated people?" Shui Junyi didn't know how to answer the question. He was a reporter and his purpose was just to guide the conversation.

"Yes, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, these are the most popular upstarts in the country's technology in the country, right? Can they be used as successful examples of education in the country?"

"Yes, they are all famous and have made extraordinary achievements. But the achievements of a few people cannot be used as evidence of the overall background of education." Shui Junyi was still very rigorous.

"That's right. What about their peers? Are they the backbone of Chou Country now?" Wang Xu asked.

"Well, it can be said that they have inherited the good fortune left by their predecessors, and now they are supporting it." Shui Junyi thought for a moment and answered.

"Bill Gates is 37 years old, Steve Jobs is the same age as him, and Larry Ellison is a little older, 48 years old. This is consistent with the fact that people in their thirties and forties are the backbone of construction in our own country. Yes, right." Wang Xu followed suit.

"Well, I seem to understand what you mean, but please explain it to the audience." Shui Junyi understood Wang Xu's logic, but still asked Wang Xu to explain clearly.

"The so-called quality education, or happy education, is a by-product of the education reform carried out by the Reagan administration in the early 1980s. It was only implemented in public schools after the rise of private education. The purpose is actually to solve the problem of insufficient teachers. Even now, it is not popular throughout the country.

In any case, happy education has been implemented in Chou Country for less than ten years, and the people who receive this education are not yet adults. How can we say that the success of Chou Country is the result of this kind of education? This is obviously contrary to logic.

The results of education need to be seen for at least thirty years, that is, when these people are forty years old, that is the appropriate time to test.

Well, that time was probably from 2010 to 2020. You can guess what the ugly Congress was like at that time. "

Wang Xu thought about what the Chou Kingdom would look like in the future. Well, a slight smile appeared on his lips, and then he continued:

"In the prosperous Ugly Country we see now, those elites, people around forty years old, the time they received primary education was actually the educational achievements of thirty years ago. We should look at the educational achievements they received thirty years ago. What kind of education, instead of examining the current education methods in ugly countries.

This is the basic principle of research. We cannot use the current prosperity to explain that the current education system is good. There is no causal relationship between the two.

Those three people, or their peers, are the backbone of the Ugly Country. If the Ugly Country is successful, then the education of these people is successful, and this is the cause and effect relationship.

But what kind of education did they receive? Sorry, they received traditional education, which is very similar to our education.

The main subjects are reading, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, geography, history, and foreign languages.

Teachers can beat students, have to take exams every semester, have to be ranked, have to write homework after class, have to score, and even have parents to sign.

After all these things are done, I have time to study elective courses such as art and dance.

There is no quality education, there is no burden reduction, there is no student rating for the teacher, there is no student who loves it or not, there is no student who learns whatever they like, nothing. They receive the same education method as us.

The only difference is that the people they receive such education are wider than ours, and the content is deeper than ours.

So, according to normal logic, we should learn this. We should carry out our similar education more broadly and deeply, and learn from the education of Chou Country thirty years ago, instead of rushing to learn from the educational reforms that Chou Country still doesn’t know the results of.

I am not an educationist, but I also know that happiness education is not a new concept that has been proposed recently. It should have a long history, but it has only been implemented on a large scale in ugly countries recently. Shouldn’t we ask why? "

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(Professor Duan’s story is adapted from a story about the introduction of equipment that the author heard in his early years)

(This is a 5,000-word chapter. I have finished writing the interview. I will not subdivide it. I don’t want it to be fragmented.)

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