Li Mengsan cooperatively stretched out his hand, and then stuck out his tongue.

Chen Nan's pulse diagnosis level is average, but basically cold and heat deficiency can be clearly diagnosed.

With the expert tongue diagnosis, his diagnosis became clearer.

The patient is a typical deficiency.

The effect of the last Zi Ge Pill was very good, and it is better to clean up the heat accumulated in the five internal organs.

The anger on the tongue also went down a lot.

However, there was still some breath in his mouth.

After pondering for a while, Chen Nan continued to ask a few questions.

This time, Li Hongying cooperated and stood aside without saying a word.

in a few minutes.

Chen Nan got up and smiled: "Okay, old man, I probably understand."

After he finished speaking, he returned to Mi Lei's office.

At this time, Jia Fumin and Mi Lei were sitting there waiting patiently.

Seeing Chen Nan coming back, Mi Lei asked curiously, "Doctor Chen, what can you do?"

Chen Nan nodded: "Well, yes."

This answer made Mi Lei's eyes light up, while Jia Fumin frowned slightly.

To be honest, Chen Nan's answer made him feel a little sloppy.

No clinical trials have been done.

Just say yes.

Is it a little too loud?

Mi Lei got up: "Oh? Dr. Chen, sit down and talk slowly, what are your thoughts?"

Chen Nan said directly: "My idea is to treat with integrated Chinese and Western medicine."

Jia Fumin asked curiously, "What kind of combination?"

Chen Nan said directly: "Use a proton pump inhibitor + a bismuth agent for gastric mucosal protection + an antibiotic."

"Then cooperate with my traditional Chinese medicine for treatment."

Jia Fumin frowned: "Why not use triple or quadruple?"

Chen Nan said directly: "Triple and quadruple, both use two kinds of antibiotics, and the old man's resistance is very strong, and the cost performance is too low!"

"Instead of this, it is better to use a proton pump inhibitor plus bismuth to protect the gastric mucosa."

"In the traditional Chinese medicine I prescribed, the dosage of some drugs can be increased to achieve better bactericidal and bacteriostatic effects."

Mi Lei heard the sound and fell silent.

Chinese medicine kills Helicobacter pylori?

Can it work? !

Jia Fumin asked directly: "Dr. Chen, if we only use an antibiotic, we have no way to ensure the sterilization effect of the patient."

"I don't approve!"

"Furthermore, I think it's a bit of a loss to kill bacteria by means of traditional Chinese medicine!"

"This is a typical practice of discarding the root and the last!"

Speaking of this, Jia Fumin softened his tone: "Of course, Dr. Chen, I respect you very much, and I respect Chinese medicine!"

"However, my argument with you is academic."

"I'm not targeting you."

"I think the large sample results show that antibiotics can effectively control Helicobacter pylori, which is known!"

"As for the suppression of traditional Chinese medicine, there is still a lack of effective data to prove it."

"I don't approve of your plan!"

"I'm not denying your traditional Chinese medicine treatment, but I think it's safer to use traditional triple therapy or quadruple therapy."

Jia Fumin spoke very politely and in a very measured manner.

Medical academic disputes are inevitable.

For things and not for people.

Nor is it for Chinese medicine.

It is only a plan made for the patient's situation.

This kind of thing is not uncommon, let alone with Chen Nan, even those top experts, often arguing with a red face because of a treatment plan.

This is what academics should be like.

But blindly agreeing or acknowledging is a dangerous signal.

Progress comes from disputes.

And Chen Nan's plan did break the previous experience a bit.

Therefore, Mi Lei chose to remain silent, while Jia Fumin chose to speak.

Chen Nan nodded: "Well, I understand."

"Director Jia, don't worry."

"Since I'm here, it's natural to discuss a more efficient solution for the situation of Mr. Li Mengsan."

Here, Mi Lei suddenly said:

"Chen Nan, tell me your thoughts."

"Be complete."

Chen Nan sorted out his thoughts, nodded and said:

"First of all, regarding the physique of the old man, it is a typical deficiency of both qi and yin, and it is accompanied by the stagnation of qi caused by the loss of qi in the middle coke."

"Secondly, antibiotics are cold and cold, which is easy to damage the central qi, stagnates the evil qi, and makes the evil have no way out, and the righteous qi is also blocked.

"Finally, the treatment of Helicobacter pylori by traditional Chinese medicine is different from "seeing the bacteria and treating the bacteria" and symptomatic treatment in clinical medicine, but adopts a combination of physical identification and syndrome differentiation. Kill or restrain, play the role of "removing evil and righteousness".

On the other hand, traditional Chinese medicine focuses on tonifying deficiency and strengthening the body. By regulating the immune function of the human body, it achieves the effect of "prospering the evil and eliminating itself". "

Speaking of this, Chen Nan is also very clear that his theory will definitely be considered by Western medicine to be self-justifying.

So explained:

"Treatment is about high efficiency and cost-effectiveness. Whether it is traditional Chinese medicine or Western medicine, it is about the most appropriate and reasonable combination method!"

"And the whole treatment process is nothing but a struggle."

"Patients are now resistant to antibiotics, whether it is triple or quadruple, to increase the amount of antibiotics to achieve a bacteriostatic effect. However, in this way, antibiotics will also kill a large number of beneficial bacteria. This kind of I don't approve of killing one hundred enemies and destroying eight thousand oneself!"

"Secondly, I think that proton pump inhibitors can be used to inhibit gastric acid secretion, which is more effective than traditional Chinese medicine to inhibit acid!"

"The choice of bismuth is to effectively protect the gastric mucosa."

"Director Mi, Director Jia, this is what I think."

After Chen Nan finished speaking, he looked at Mi Lei quietly.

At this time, Mi Lei was also thoughtful.

The program Chen Nan said, in terms of Western medicine, is risk-free.

but……

What the curative effect is, Mi Lei doesn't think it will be very good.

The old man's tolerance is too strong!

Of course, what if Chinese medicine is added?

He doesn't know.

But... Mi Lei wanted to try it.

As for the reason, it is definitely not just for the treatment of Li Mengsan.

But for a goal!

scientific research results.

Although Mi Lei has done some projects in Yuancheng People's Hospital in recent years, he has not won any awards.

This limits Mi Lei's position in the industry and future prospects.

Including the chance of selection of experts subsidized by the State Council.

Mi Lei needs a result.

But now, he couldn't think of a better direction.

The situation of Li Mengsan gave Mi Lei another thought...

Is it possible to find a practical way for Helicobacter pylori patients with strong drug resistance and difficult radical treatment?

If it can, it will benefit Mi Lei immensely.

Even more so for those patients!

Chinese medicine and Western medicine... Can we combine them in terms of curative effect? !

This is a question worth investigating.

Is it effective to treat stubborn drug-resistant Helicobacter throttle by integrated traditional Chinese and Western medicine? !

When Mi Lei was silent.

Jia Fumin sighed: "Doctor Chen, I am skeptical of your plan."

"Your theory is quite reasonable though."

"But... can't convince me."

"Sorry, I don't support it."

Chen Nan smiled and said nothing.

but……

There was a sound in his ear!

【Ding! Congratulations, you have received a bad review from Jia Fumin, the bad review rating: medium. 】

Got a bad review?

Chen Nan was thoughtful.

And this time!

Suddenly Mi Lei said:

"I think, try it!"

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