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During the period of profit, Lei Hao did sugar futures once, but it was a simple and crude way, fast in and fast out. Compared with the position of hundreds of thousands of hands, he opened more than a thousand lots, and he was willing to pay for the cost of opening a position. Even if you lose a little, you still have to do something.

However, there is always a maximum limit to ultra-short-term, and the market will not tolerate ultra-short-term capital inflows and outs without limit. In other words, if Lei Hao does not do medium- and long-term, the funds he invests in a specific market will be limited.

Does Qin Yu do ultra-short-term trading? Of course he wanted to do it, and he wished that all Lei Hao's funds for ultra-short-term business belonged to Qingyu, but this was impossible.

Except for the stock market, the financial market trading seats that Lei Hao used used Qing Yu's channel platform, so Qin Yu knew that Lei Hao would try his best to give high-risk, high-profit investments to his own funds.

This is normal. Risks are directly proportional to returns. Lei Hao is not afraid of outsiders' opinions at all. He can use risks as an argument.

But for Qin Yu, he saw another possibility, which was the possibility of whether Lei Hao would make a profit in the medium and long term.

Lei Hao didn't know Qin Yu's specific thoughts, but he suddenly became interested in this cooperation.

If Lei Hao were asked to use the company's funds to invest in medium and long-term investments spanning one month, several months, or one year, he would definitely not be willing to do so.

Thunder Investment's current capital operation has reached almost the ultimate speed. Under Lei Hao's command, there is an average profit margin of 3% per week, which is tens of millions compared to billions of funds.

Moreover, Lei Hao has not encountered major changes in the market recently. If the market fluctuates violently, he can make more profits, so his capital and human resources will not be allocated to medium and long-term investments.

"If this continues, will I still have some private time?" Lei Hao suddenly shook his head.

After finishing a lot of things in his company, Lei Hao felt like he was too busy. If he added another project, would he be working 24 hours a day?

Lei Hao is actually a recent college graduate. Even though he has grown rapidly in the past six months, he still feels a little inadequate when he is in charge of the entire Thunder Investment. This is why he turns into a workaholic every day.

If you don't work hard, you will have to give up some profits. In the most fragmented case, there are hundreds of investment targets, each one has to be looked at, plus piles of analysis reports, and time is just consumed.

"It would be a pity to give up. After all, we have to learn to enter into medium and long-term operations," Lei Hao continued to think silently: "Resolving the financial conflict between medium- and long-term and short-term also requires learning experience."

"What suggestions does Mr. Qin have?" Lei Hao still wanted to know Qin Yu's thoughts.

"A new trust or even a new company is fine." After Qin Yu answered, he took out a stack of information and handed it to Lei Hao.

This is Qing Yu's investment plan and current position status. Ordinary people must not be able to see it, but Qin Yu is willing to hand it over to Lei Hao.

"I have never done medium- to long-term business." Lei Hao was a little uneasy, but more confident, "Thunderbolt does not do mid- to long-term business at the moment."

"That is to say, I will do it in the future." Qin Yu smiled brightly. He did not have Lei Hao's keen sense of the market, but he was very accurate in reading people.

Sooner or later, Lei Lei will enter the investment field with a long cycle, and using Qing Yu's money to test the waters is the best thing for Qin Yu.

If he wins, Qin Yu can make money, but if he loses, how can Lei Hao have the nerve to kick Qing Yu out of the Thunder?

"There is only one biggest difference between short-term and long-term, position." Qin Yu continued: "It is impossible for us to know whether we can achieve the expected profit, but the cost of opening a position, maintaining the position, the choice of the opponent, and the timing and steps to exit the market ,I think……"

"Tiger, you are capable in all these aspects." Qin Yu was more confident than Lei Hao.

"I can't focus on this side. Many times, it's very difficult to decide who to give the chips to." Lei Hao continued to test Qin Yu's attitude.

Qin Yu had already thought about this matter and gave the greatest trust: "Thunder has priority, and new projects will not compete with short-term investments."

"Is it still the original contract?" Lei Hao suddenly became interested.

Qin Yu smiled bitterly at this time: "It's impossible. At least several hundred million in funds, a full set of staffing, information channels, research and analysis, etc. are all done by Qing Yu. If I dare to give you more than this, The more profits you make, the whole Qingyu will rebel."

"Then I might as well do it myself." Lei Hao said with a smile.

Qin Yu was not annoyed and replied with the same smile: "The Thunder may not be short of funds, but they are short of experience and team. This is also a new adventure for you, Tiger, isn't it?"

Lei Hao was immediately speechless. He was in the medium and long term and operated according to his style. It would not be surprising to hold a position of 100,000 lots. This would at least be a deposit of several hundred million. In addition, the medium and long term would require more preparations. With room for advancement and retreat, it is common to spend one billion.

The position is heavy and it is difficult to advance or retreat. You can't say that I can close all the positions worth one billion or eighty million in one day.

Furthermore, in the medium and long term, there are many times when you must hold a position even though you know you are losing money. In Livingston's words, "I can't lose my position."

So here’s the problem, Lei Hao can definitely know a week’s information in advance, and maybe even further in the future, but with such a large amount of money involved, the future will change all the time.

This week's loss is expected, so I will continue to hold the position. What about next week? What about next week? The main force is not that easy to do.

Qin Yu continued: "My plan is to start a new project and cooperate with both parties. Thunder will also invest in it."

"I can raise funds from customers according to the original contract, but we do short-term trusts." Lei Hao finally said.

The so-called short-term trust literally means that it has a short term. In other words, Lei Hao is planning to exit the contract after finishing the cotton futures, which may be half a year or a year.

Qin Yu finally nodded. According to Lei Hao's original progressive algorithm, if the return rate is 70%, Lei Hao will actually only get 21%, and then only get 70% for the part that exceeds 70%.

The time span of this medium and long-term operation is about a few months to a year. Qingyu's analysis results show that under ideal conditions, a profit of about 50% can be achieved, but this is only an ideal condition.

Lei Hao also understands the difficulty. Lengthening the line and enlarging the funds means that the project's profit will not be able to keep up with the fluctuation range of the bid.

For example, if you go long and cotton futures have a 10% increase during the period, can you directly multiply the 10% increase by the leverage? Of course not.

With more funds, it is 100% possible to accumulate funds at a price higher than the lowest price, liquidate positions at a price lower than the highest price, and rarely use the maximum leverage.

Qing Yu is optimistic that the price of cotton will rise, and Qin Yu even thinks that Lei Hao can create more than the remuneration for the project, or even less than that. He can deepen his cooperation with Thunder and stabilize his shareholding in Thunder.

Lei Hao's purpose is also very simple. He is practicing on Qingyu's project. He doesn't even know what the futures market will be like in half a year or a year, but he has at least one week's lead time than others. There is no guarantee that he will make money. He can make more money than others. If you have more, you will lose less than others, but you will be sure of it.

The two settled the matter easily. At this time, Lei Hao didn't know how big the stall would be.