Go: I’m 50-50 against the AI

Chapter 366 365. The enhanced version of the dog

"Okay, thank you very much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to accept my interview. Thank you."

The interview time passed very quickly, and Ying Jie felt that he still had a lot to say, as if he had not finished saying a lot of things.

The main reason is that the pretense this time was really smooth, and the 9th-dan Lu Li next to him was still holding him up.

Lu Li felt as if he was the number one player throughout the entire 9th-dan run.

When Ying Jie was said to be crazy, Lu Li 9th Dan immediately said, wasn't Gao Yongxia even crazier back then?

It is said that the legend of Gao Yongxia has come to an end, but in fact it has almost come to an end for him. Winning the championship in the future will depend on whether Ying Jie and the others are willing to give him face.

He praised Ying Jie the whole time, making Ying Jie feel a little embarrassed.

"We have to go back to the Imperial Capital soon. The Chess Academy seems to say there is something we need to go out to deal with."

Ying Jie stood up and pulled down his pants, and asked Lu Li a strange question.

The chess academy seemed to say that there was a business cooperation that required Ying Jie and the others to go back to confirm the signature.

According to what Ying Jie knew in the group, it seemed that all members of the national team had received this notice.

Is it possible that a certain big boss wants to bring the entire national team together to get an endorsement?

I don’t know what to endorse.

But if there are so many people, the endorsement fee for each person will probably not be very high.

But for Go players, if they can be endorsed on TV, they don’t know whether the player is endorsing the product or the product is endorsing you.

After all, the world champion of Go is not very valuable in a sense.

In more than a year, six or seven world champions can even be produced, which is considered wholesale.

But it is unrealistic to hold an annual World Go Championship like other sports.

It may dampen the enthusiasm of sponsors who sponsor world competitions. After all, the competitions they sponsor are equivalent to downgrading.

And regarding the sponsorship of this competition, is it jointly sponsored by the three countries, or is it looking for some kind of grievance...sponsor?

It's basically impossible to jointly fund the event. After all, Fuso was the first one to show off and refuse to do so. It doesn't even host the World Series at home, but it still wants to help you organize such a thing.

Send you money? dream.

Not to mention that now that Ying Jie is there, it is impossible for South Korea to agree.

A few years ago, when South Korea was sure to win the championship, they might have been willing.

If it is privately sponsored, there is really no chance of winning a high bonus.

You can’t go bankrupt if you generate electricity for love. After all, Go doesn’t really have any traffic feedback.

Ying Jie has recently become the top among the top in the Go world, but many people including his own relatives still don't know what Ying Jie is doing.

After all, the only channel that can be understood is news, and many people don’t watch news at all when watching TV.

It's Ying Jie's parents who know when the news will be broadcast on them, in the kind of family group where a bunch of aunts and uncles are squatting in front of the TV.

The reason for staying here is very simple. At least there will be something to talk about at the entrance of the village for a week.

"I thought Ying Jie was quite smart when he was a kid, but now he's out and is on the news."

"I think it's useless. If you don't study hard, you will still be miserable when the time comes. I've heard that some athletes are not so poor after selling their medals."

There are all kinds of rumors about the gossip center at the entrance of the village.

However, because Ying Jie's parents were both the youngest children of the older generation, not long after Ying Jie was born, the elders of the previous generation had all passed away.

Now, except for visiting the countryside to pay New Year greetings, Ying Jie basically doesn't go to the village to celebrate the New Year.

In the past, when I was a child, I felt that it was boring to go back. There were no children to play in the county. Now I really feel that it is really good not to go back. I don’t have to sit on pins and needles in front of my relatives.

"Oh, I've got the inside information."

Lu Li Jiuduan unbuttoned his suit and let out his belly for some air.

When a person reaches thirty, it’s time to get out of shape.

As the former number one person in China, and as he is older, Lu Li 9th Dan has now begun to get involved in some administrative work.

It is foreseeable that Lu Li's 9th Dan may take up positions such as the dean of the chess academy.

Therefore, it is normal for them to know some inside information earlier than Ying Jie and the others.

After all, Ying Jie and the others don't have administrative groups, but Lu Li's 9th dan has begun to dive in these groups.

"Which company is it endorsed by?"

Hearing this, Lu Lijiu Duan said somewhat mysteriously: "It's not an endorsement, but it's related to the company, and it's a big foreign company.

Have you heard of Gugou? It just announced its withdrawal from China this year. "

GuGou can be said to be one of the largest Internet companies in the world. It exited the Chinese mainland market in 2010.

However, it has announced that it will withdraw from the Chinese mainland market without passing some of China's censorship.

Of course, the more reason is that the market share in China is insufficient.

Don't think that a certain Du Niang will be like a garbage dump in future generations, just like the Putian advertising field.

But in the early days, this person had been beating Gugou to the ground in the Chinese market. At one time, he occupied 75% of the entire market, while Gugou only had more than ten percent.

If he reverses it and can occupy most of the market and make money, wait and see whether he retreats.

This can be seen from the attitude towards China on certain mobile phones and social software.

A certain result: If it doesn't comply with the policy, it can be changed. It makes money, not shabby.

A certain book: What a Chinese son-in-law is, if he can’t make any money, it’s all nonsense.

But these are not really important.

Upon hearing this name, Ying Jie immediately seemed to think of something.

dog!

Seeing Ying Jie who was silent, Lu Li's 9th Dan did not whet his appetite and continued to talk: "It is said that it is about developing AI or something, and training artificial intelligence through Go.

So I was buying chess records from chess players from various countries everywhere, and it was said that I had already negotiated cooperation with South Korea.

But as for China..."

Lu Lijiu scratched his head, although to a certain extent, the Chinese Chess Academy has done pretty well for such a long time.

The rise of Chinese Go in recent years is inseparable from collective research and a series of related work in which chess academies concentrate their efforts on accomplishing major things.

But I still do poorly in other tasks, such as copyright work on chess records.

In other words, the entire copyright landscape in China is indeed a mess.

Previously, some Go enthusiasts compiled a set of "World Go Powerful Players' Collection" of famous players' famous games and sold them online.

But this set of books was not authorized by the chess players. This publishing house published the books of famous chess players everywhere without ever saying hello. Even the chess players themselves knew that they had this book accidentally.

In addition to copyright, China does not pay enough attention to chess records, especially some related statistical work.

According to the reports of most Chinese professional chess players, they have no idea how many games they have won or lost in their career, and many chess records have not been left behind.

Except for Lu Li, who insisted on keeping track of his own game records at 9th dan, he learned that he had won thousands of professional victories.

In terms of database collection and organization, China not only cannot compare with Japan and South Korea, but is even inferior to Europe and the United States, which were once considered Go deserts.

The Chinese chess community has always lacked data collection services for professional chess players. Even the leading figures in the past generations who created the great situation of Chinese chess do not even know how many official games they have played.

In comparison, the sense of ceremony in South Korea is quite sufficient.

Whenever professional players reach milestones such as 100 wins or 1,000 wins, they will even be awarded some trophies, souvenirs and the like.

Although it is of no use, it is indeed an honorary gift that can enhance a chess player's self-confidence and sense of belonging.

There may also be some people above who think that these things are too vague, and I’m afraid it’s better for everyone to sit down and hold a seminar to improve their skills.

But in the long run, this must be an indispensable feature.

In a sense, the chess records that Gugou can buy from China are probably much less than those from Japan and South Korea. After all, many professional chess records are not compiled, or are even lost after being compiled.

"Anyway, it is said that we are doing statistical work, and we want to compile the chess records and sell them there.

It is said that the company there plans to use our chess records to feed artificial intelligence to see if it can train an artificial intelligence for Go.

I feel that this kind of statistics is of little use. The most important thing is to rely on calculation power, and it can't say bad things.

However, it is impossible for those trained by human chess records to surpass humans, and it is always within our framework. "

Lu Li's 9th Dan seems to be quite pessimistic about the future of artificial intelligence. In his opinion, after all, it is trained by our things, can it surpass us?

It's just a walking machine from Handan.

In a sense, chess records are also equivalent to martial arts secrets.

In the Internet age, due to a series of reasons such as live broadcasting of games, chess records are not a secret that can be hidden.

But it was completely different in the past, especially before the Internet and television.

Chess records, even just a life and death question, are the real secrets and the foundation of the family.

During the most exciting period of Fuso Go, the four major families even married off their daughters just to steal someone else's moves.

The famous Fa Yang Theory is a product of this period.

Nowadays, Taobao sells for 9 yuan, and no one wants it without free shipping.

But now the Internet era is equivalent to a large wholesale of martial arts secrets, Beiming Shen Kung, and the Eighteen Dragon Subduing Palms are all put online for you to learn at will.

This is one of the reasons why Go technology has been explosively advancing on a large scale in modern times.

Because knowledge is no longer monopolized by a few families and dojos.

In Lu Li Jiuduan's view, no matter how powerful Google's R\u0026D technology is, you can't break away from our human framework. How powerful can it be?

It would be good to be on the same level as myself.

Many people in the Go industry even think that reaching the professional level is considered a win.

After hearing what Lu Lijiu said, Ying Jie suddenly seemed to think of something.

The dogs that appeared in several stages in the previous life are basically not the same version.

For example, the dog that fought against a certain European champion, and the dog that Xiao Li fought against later, although they were both dogs of the same generation, their versions had also been upgraded.

In a sense, Generation Dog is the pinnacle of human Go. It is an artificial intelligence fed purely by human wisdom.

Therefore, he does not surpass the human frame to some extent, and sometimes he even falls into the same mistakes as humans.

But it's completely different when it comes to the second-generation dogs. Although the master version before the second-generation dogs also has human chess records, it proposes a new training method.

This method can not only train intelligent systems more efficiently, but also achieve better training results. Its specific implementation methods include three aspects: self-game, Monte Carlo tree search and deep reinforcement learning.

In the subsequent zero version, humans were completely abandoned, and artificial intelligence like flying immortals appeared.

Many have completely rejected the path that humans previously thought was correct.

This is also the training method for subsequent artificial intelligence such as Jueyi.

Some of the chess they played, also called AI chess, were created by AI.

Ying Jie couldn't help but muttered a little when he thought of this.

Because Ying Jie's arrival has actually brought about many changes in the AI ​​era, many chess players are moving closer to Ying Jie's moves.

There is no other way. Anyone who wants to win will seek change and learn.

There are people to learn from in every era, and there is nothing to be ashamed of.

Originally, China and South Korea learned from Fuso. Later, the center moved to South Korea to learn from South Korea. Now it has moved to China to learn from China.

The generation of dogs in the original time and space not only absorbed the essence of human beings, but also absorbed the dross of human Go, and achieved the pinnacle of humankind.

But if the current generation of dogs uses the "correct" moves brought by Ying Jie on the card, in a sense, will they surpass the so-called generation of dogs in the original time and space?

No, it will definitely be surpassed.

Because traditional training methods have very high requirements for data.

And Ying Jie, in this era, is the only high-quality data.

In a sense, putting the chess records of many professional chess players together with Ying Jie's would contaminate the database.

Ying Jie originally felt that the original generation of dogs was just like this. Even with the super computing power of the machine, he could even lose less and win more.

After all, around 2017, the beta versions of these AIs from Jueyi were actually about 64% higher than the real super-class ones like Ke Pu at the time, which was a shame among dogs.

But Ying Jie really can't guarantee what the generation of dogs who are on the right path will look like and how successful they will be.

Only now did Ying Jie realize that his butterfly wings not only had an impact on the world of chess.

It has even had an immeasurable effect on the development of AI.

but……

My high-quality chess records are crucial to the development of AI.

Do I need to pay more?

As for making a generation of dogs stronger.

Ying Jie is not afraid of this at all, after all, there is an AI in his mind that has escaped the concept of strength.

If you are afraid of a generation of dogs, then you cannot even touch the threshold of outstanding art.

Not to mention that if you don’t authorize others, they won’t use it secretly. At worst, you’ll just have to file a lawsuit later.

After all, people spend money every year to maintain a professional team.

If capitalists abide by the rules, there would be no need to maintain so many legal teams.

Di Mou wanted to prevent his family's copyright from becoming a public copyright, but he was able to directly amend the law.

Ps: In the 7th round, two 10-station groups will produce two 12-points and two 10-points. Three 8-station groups will produce 3 10-points and 3 8-points. 5 6-station groups will produce 5 8-points. In this way, the first There will be five 10-point players in the 8th round. If Ke wins in the 7th round, and then beats the extra 10-point player in the 8th round, there should be a theoretical possibility of qualifying.

But everything remains on paper, and it is impossible to happen in reality.

I didn’t expect that one day Ke would be treated the same as the Chinese football team.