Aokiji suspected that he had heard it wrong.

“Are you kidding me?”

This guy actually asked him to betray the World Government and the Navy? Does he really know what he is talking about?

He must be confused!

“I’m serious.”

Ivan certainly didn’t mean to joke. After all, the man in front of him betrayed the World Government without hesitation in the original work.

The theory that he was a Navy undercover agent almost failed after he and the members of the Blackbeard Pirates captured Garp.

He was indeed confused about justice and had indeed chosen to betray his former self.

In this case, he was not an enemy.

“What nonsense are you talking about? Who do you think I am?”

Aokiji sneered at Ivan.

After confirming that Ivan was not joking, Aokiji really felt that this guy was treating him as a joke.

What does this bastard think of himself?

“Then let’s have a good chat about what is justice.”

“Four-one-zero” Ivan simply sat cross-legged opposite Aokiji, placed Qiu Shui horizontally on his knees, and spoke slowly.

Is this guy trying to seduce me and make me betray the navy?

What a wishful thinking, a whimsical idea.

But now it seems that this is not a bad thing.

Although I was tough just now, the current situation is that if I continue to fight, I will definitely die.

Take this opportunity to rest for a while and recover some physical strength.

By the way, maybe I can wait for support from Fishman Street.

“Justice?”

Although he was prepared to delay time, Aokiji still spoke in a very aggressive tone,”What is there to talk about with a guy like you?”

“Then tell me about yourself, Kuzan.”

Ivan said slowly,”What do you think justice is like? Does it come from law, politics, or morality?”

“Law, politics, morality?”

Aokiji frowned slightly.

“It can only come from these three, right?”

Ivan said with a smile,”What the law prohibits is unjust. Actions taken for political purposes are also a kind of justice for people in the same camp.”

“Finally, acting with a simple sense of justice can certainly be a kind of justice.”

“Kuzan, answer me, which one are you?”

“Don’t treat me like an idiot,”

Aokiji sneered,”Can these three be calculated separately?”

“”Hahahaha!”

Ivan laughed,”Indeed, of course it should be so.”

Can an act that goes against the law and the interests of one’s own country out of one’s own sense of morality be called justice?

Similarly, it is difficult to call it justice to go against common moral concepts for the sake of the interests of the camp.

It is just that simple.

“Obey the law, safeguard the interests of the majority, and conform to secular morality.”

Ivan raised a finger every time he said a sentence, and after three sentences, he had raised three fingers.”The three combined into one, this should be what we generally call justice.”

Aokiji also nodded.

That was indeed the case, and he had nothing to refute.

“Then, we can talk about you, the justice of the navy.”

Ivan said with a smile

“I don’t think there’s any need to talk anymore.”

Aokiji crossed his arms,”We are the ones who obey the law, and you are the ones who trample on it. We are the ones who protect the people, and you are the ones who make the world turbulent. We are the ones who fight for justice in our hearts, and you are the ones who trample on justice and keep the people awake at night.””

“It sounds reasonable, but,”

Ivan’s mouth corners raised high at this time,”is it really so?”

“We seem to have missed a very important topic, that is, if the law itself is wrong, and politics is using the excuse of the majority to tyrannize a minority, then is the behavior of upholding the law and the people still just?”

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Aokiji frowned.

“Isn’t there a ready-made example?”

Ivan said with a smile,”O’Hara, this country that attempted to study the blank for a hundred years, they triggered the laws made by the world government, and were accused by the government of attempting to revive ancient weapons to threaten the world, and were finally destroyed by you.”

“Kuzan, so you must think that your action that time was just, right?”

“……”[]

Aokiji was silent for a moment,”Are you trying to use the O’Hara incident to shake me?”

“Even if the government’s decision is wrong, it is unavoidable. For 800 years, the World Government has maintained world order and the Navy has maintained justice on the sea. This is beyond doubt.

This is probably the view held by most of the Navy.

The government sometimes does a lot of things that people can’t stand, but they have objectively maintained world order and the security of member states.

“Don’t worry, Kuzan,”

Ivan continued,”If we want to see what the World Government really looks like, we only need to understand one thing. Who does the World Government serve?”

“Who are you serving?”

Aokiji frowned,”What are you talking about?”

“The nature of a regime depends on the composition of the ruling class,”

Ivan said calmly,”In a country ruled by the king and nobles, the rulers are the nobles, so the country serves the nobles. The country is their private property, and the people are their appendages.”

“This shouldn’t be something difficult to understand, right?”

Aokiji still didn’t understand,”What exactly do you want to say?”

“At this time, I said that the army and government of a kingdom serve the king and nobles, and are violent institutions to maintain their rule, so there should be no problem, right?”

Ivan said,”The army will indeed fight bandits and drive away pirates, but if the ruler is a bad king, when he wants to act recklessly, the army will become his accomplice and denounce the rebels as traitors, right?”

Aokiji understood a little bit, and understood what Ivan wanted to say….

“Then let’s get back to the point and discuss who the world government serves.”

Ivan said,”This is actually very easy to judge. Who are the class that dominates the government in terms of politics and economy, and the class that holds government power?”

“……”

Aokiji didn’t say anything

“Of course it’s the Celestial Dragons, right?”

Ivan said,”The Five Elders who hold the highest power in the world are the Celestial Dragons. Every year, all member states have to pay a large amount of heavenly gold to the Celestial Dragons for their enjoyment. Moreover, they enjoy special privileges and can kill people at will and enslave people at will. Your navy must be dispatched immediately after encountering an attack on the Celestial Dragons.”

“If you say that the World Government does not serve the Celestial Dragons, then I will think you are taking me for a fool.”

“……Then what?”

Aokiji felt that his voice was a little difficult.

“All political powers ultimately serve the ruling class, this is beyond doubt.”

Ivan said,”So, the justice of the navy is to uphold the justice of the Celestial Dragons, to eliminate all the enemies of the Celestial Dragons, such as me, and then, we will take the time to uphold the justice in your hearts.”

“Is that right?”

Aokiji couldn’t refute it.

If it wasn’t so, Ivan’s bounty wouldn’t be as high as 10 billion Baileys, and the Navy wouldn’t give up other operations in the past year and make the pursuit of the criminals who killed the Celestial Dragons the first goal.

No one has ever analyzed the World Government in this way.

Aokiji has never felt that the relationship between the Celestial Dragons, the government, and the Navy is so clearly presented in front of him.

“So, Kuzan, do you think that the laws made by the World Government are to protect the people or to maintain the rule of the Celestial Dragons?”

Ivan asked with interest,”What do they represent, the interests of all the member states, or the interests of the Celestial Dragons? After all, the interests of the Celestial Dragons and the interests of the people are not unified, and can even be regarded as opposites, right? The amount of Tianshang Gold is not a small amount. How many member states have suffered because of it?”

“Now, tell me, Kuzan, correct laws, representing the interests of the majority of the people, and conforming to universal morality. In your mind, which of these three points does the world government meet?”

Aokiji widened his eyes.


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