I have a world of cultivating immortals

Chen Mobai stood in front of the Dan Ding Jade Tree. His disappointment lasted only for a moment, and then he immediately felt a stronger motivation.

The two blue birds made him comprehend the two great ways of Pure Yang and Saint Virtue. Moreover, he entered the Purple Sky Palace twice and obtained the most advanced cultivation method in this universe, and even heard the secret of eternity.

This last blue bird was obviously the most famous Nirvana Road of Dan Ding Taoist.

But for Chen Mobai, what he was most looking forward to was whether the third blue bird contained secrets above the ninth level, creation, and eternity.

It was a good thing for Chen Mobai that he could not receive these inheritances now, after all, he had just entered the God Transformation. The Dan Ding Jade Tree was here, and there would be plenty of opportunities in the future.

However, the harvest this time alone was already very huge.

First of all, the basic goal of guaranteeing the bottom line was to achieve the God Transformation Dao!

Secondly, the excess harvest, the promotion of the divine consciousness, and the second soul would soon have the strength of the middle stage of the God Transformation. In addition, the Yuanyang Sword also broke through to the sixth level because he condensed the Saint Virtue Seed. With these two combined, Chen Mobai can already walk sideways in Dongzhou.

Finally, there was an unexpected surprise. The two blue birds allowed him to enter the Zixiao Palace twice. He bowed to the Taoist master and was taught the method of cultivating to the eighth level of Pure Yang in the Pure Yang Volume.

Thinking of this, Chen Mobai immediately sat in front of the Dan Ding Yushu again and began to comprehend the method taught by the Zixiao Taoist Master.

However, because his own realm was only the transformation of the spirit, he could only understand the superficial meaning of this part of the content.

That is, the introduction of the Pure Yang realm.

At the beginning of the creation of the world, the most powerful existence could only become a supreme Dao, the master of the Great Dao, which is the realm of the seventh level of the Dao.

In this universe, the Zixiao Taoist Master was the first creature to surpass the seventh level and achieve Pure Yang. It was for this reason that he named this realm "Pure Yang"!

Because the Zixiao Taoist Master entered the Dao with Pure Yang, the practice method was also named Pure Yang.

The so-called pure Yang means mastering more than one avenue.

That is to say, at least two avenues, or three thousand avenues.

There may be a huge difference between pure Yang and pure Yang. But even the weakest pure Yang can easily suppress the existence of the seventh-level Hedao.

When Chen Mobai saw this, his eyebrows jumped.

He thought of the Demon Lord. Among the three thousand demon ways, the seventy-two phases are all Hedao existences, which means that he has mastered seventy-two avenues.

This kind of existence is probably the top pure Yang under the ninth level.

However, the demon way calls this realm the star worship! But the meaning is the same.

Among the methods taught by Zixiao Daozun, there are some that he himself has achieved pure Yang, and some that are tailored according to Chen Mobai's situation.

If you want to be promoted from Hedao to pure Yang, the key is to go from one to two.

Zixiao Daozun is the two avenues of Yin and Yang and Taixu, followed by the three thousand avenues, and then it is good fortune.

After the Daoist Master Zixiao transcends, the two great ways of Yin Yang and Taixu will be vacant in this universe. There are many people in the Zixiao Palace, except those who have already reached Pure Yang, and the rest who have reached He Dao or even Lianxu, are waiting for this moment.

After all, Yin Yang and Taixu are proven mature methods that can be promoted to Pure Yang.

That is why Chen Mobai can only refer to them.

Because there must be classmates who have occupied these two great ways.

When Chen Mobai thought of this, he read the latter part of the Pure Yang volume taught by Daoist Master Zixiao. This is the Pure Yang Road with the Saintly Virtue as the main theme.

It is recorded above that Saintly Virtue and Last Luck are also two opposite great ways. Practicing these two great ways can make creatures break through the shackles and achieve the Pure Yang realm like the return of the two yin and yang.

Last Luck! ?

When Chen Mobai saw this, his face suddenly became bitter.

Because he knew that the Last Luck in this world had already had a master, and it was the Demon Lord.

That is, the Great Mill of Destruction!

If he reaches the state of Hedao in the future, he needs to dominate the Demon Lord before he can occupy the Avenue of Destiny and achieve Pure Yang.

But the problem is that the Demon Lord is the most powerful in this universe. Even if the powerful people of Zixiao Palace take action, they can only suppress him, but not kill him.

If Chen Mobai regards the Avenue of Destiny as his goal, it is impossible to accomplish in this universe.

However, Zixiao Daozun obviously thought of this, so there is a last part.

There are three innate avenues in the Pure Yang volume. This last Nirvana Avenue, combined with the Avenue of Extinction, can also achieve Pure Yang.

But what is this Avenue of Extinction?

After reading it, Chen Mobai felt that he had only gained some knowledge.

"Forget it, take it one step at a time. I have just transformed into a spirit, and I am considering Pure Yang. It's a bit too far."

But he soon calmed down. Since ancient times, the immortal sect has only produced Bai Guang, who has practiced emptiness. Although he is very confident in himself, he dare not guarantee that he can practice to the state of Hedao.

For the time being, the small goal is to beat Bai Guang.

After the idea was clear, Chen Mobai felt relieved.

Then, he comprehended the Pure Yang Volume passed down by Dan Ding Taoist, the three chapters of Transformation of Spirit, Practice of Void, and Combination of Dao. After reading them one by one, he felt that they were incomparably magical.

It records in detail how to practice, enter, guide, and refine the six great ways of the Pure Yang Volume.

Chen Mobai read them all first, and then focused on comprehending the two great ways of pure yang and holy virtue.

Especially the holy virtue.

This is the only innate great way he has comprehended. If he wants to be promoted to pure yang or even to good fortune in the future, it all depends on this.

I don’t know how long it has been, Chen Mobai opened his eyes from under the Dan Ding Yushu.

He took a deep breath, and with his breath, the sixth-level spiritual energy in the entire Yuping small world began to flow towards him continuously.

Under the operation of the Pure Yang Scroll of the Transformation Realm, these were quickly refined into his body.

These spiritual energies were not used to improve his innate pure yang energy, but to strengthen his body. The passiveness of the Pure Yang body refining, under his conscious urging, quickly operated.

Compared with the spiritual consciousness and true qi, his body is the weakest one.

However, as a cultivator pursuing immortality, this has always been put at the end. Chen Mobai will only spend time on body training when the other two cannot be improved.

Among the body-building techniques, the only one he had practiced seriously was the longevity body.

However, after being promoted to the fourth level, the longevity body had reached its peak, and now it has been included in the longevity technique.

Thinking of this, Chen Mobai comprehended the longevity technique with his current realm.

This great technique, after being practiced, can increase one-third of life span.

According to Chen Mobai's current life span of about two thousand years, it can increase 666 years out of thin air. If he takes some Dachun fairy fruit, more than three hundred cups of Shoumei fairy tea, etc., it can be automatically superimposed.

This is a great technique that will benefit you for life after practicing it!

No wonder Yiyuan Zhenjun spent so much effort to practice it.

After listening to the class in Zixiao Palace, Chen Mobai was also knowledgeable. After comprehending it, he knew that this longevity technique was part of the great way of life.

And the combination of the two great ways of life and death is the innate great way of life and death.

In Zixiao Palace, his third senior brother in black robe and white hair is the controller of this great way.

When thinking of this, Chen Mobai suddenly froze.

In this universe, since the Avenue of Life and Death has been occupied, then the legend of Tianhe Realm that Tianzun controls life and death is not right.

After all, there is only one Avenue!

Or, Tianzun failed to merge the Avenue of Life and Death, so all the people of Changsheng Sect were annihilated together.

But if...

Tianzun succeeded in merging the Avenue of Life and Death!

When Chen Mobai thought of this, his whole body trembled slightly, and he felt an uncontrollable excitement.

That means that the three thousand Avenues of Tianhe Realm are not the three thousand Avenues of this universe.

The Avenue of Doom of this universe has been occupied by the Demon Lord, but what about the Avenue of Tianhe Realm?

If it is still empty, doesn’t it mean...

Thinking of this, Chen Mobai could no longer sit still, and immediately took out the Turtle Treasure and teleported to Tianhe Realm.

Tianpeng Mountain

Since Chen Mobai had been in seclusion here, the spiritual energy here has been getting better day by day. Zhou Shengqing ordered that for the sake of a bright future, the disciples of the sect should work hard to transfer the spiritual energy of the major spiritual veins in Dongzhou to Tianpeng Mountain through the Tianmu Diluo formation to the maximum extent possible.

The purpose is to ensure that Chen Mobai will not fail due to the lack of spiritual energy when he breaks through in seclusion.

Silver light flashes.

Chen Mobai has appeared on the top of the mountain. As his majestic spiritual consciousness sweeps, the entire Donghuang, Yunmengze, Dongwu, and even Dongyi, all the territories of the Five Elements Sect are covered by his thoughts.

Is this the transformation of the spirit?

Chen Mobai himself is a little intoxicated by this feeling of being high above and overlooking everything.

However, he remembered why he came here this time, and immediately put away his mentality of showing off. Standing on the top of the mountain, he began to perceive this avenue in this world with the method of the end of the road recorded in the Yiyuan Daojing.

But the practice of the Great Dao is not a simple matter. Even though he has now comprehended the Hunyuanzhu realm of the One Yuan Dao Sutra, he is still at a loss for the Great Dao of the End.

After a long time, Chen Mobai opened his eyes and sighed slightly.

After all, he did not major in the One Yuan Dao Sutra, so he could not get started with the Great Dao of the End.

Moreover, only the Lianxu chapter in the One Yuan Dao Sutra involves the Great Dao of the End, and the relevant text is also very brief.

Because the One Yuan Zhenjun himself has not practiced this Great Dao.

This may be good news for Chen Mobai, maybe this Great Dao is still empty.

Of course, it may be occupied by others, so it cannot be practiced.

But in any case, Chen Mobai certainly hopes for the good side. It just so happens that he has just entered the Great Dao of Saint Virtue. As a person with great luck, he feels that he should have such good luck!

After stopping to comprehend the Great Dao of the End, Chen Mobai thought that since he was already here, he might as well make some noise.

He sat on the top of the mountain, thinking about the One Yuan Dao Sutra in his mind again.

The Pure Yang Scroll has already been transformed into a spirit, and he wondered if he could condense the Hun Yuan Pearl.

After all, if he really wants to face the end of his fate in the future, he must first practice the first part of the One Yuan Dao Sutra.

Chen Mobai closed his eyes, and the five sounds of the law urged him, and his mind was immersed.

He has already reached the state of transformation. So for many cultivators in the One Yuan Dao Palace, the extremely difficult bottleneck does not exist in his eyes.

The Hunyuan Zhenqi stored in the middle Dantian has already been perfected with the help of the massive Five Elements essence condensed by millions of monks under the Five Elements Sect. Under the control of his divine consciousness in the realm of gods, these Hunyuan Zhenqi follow the One Yuan Dao. Through this exercise, it goes round and round.

When the fire was almost done, Chen Mobai's consciousness fell and perfectly blended with the Hunyuan Qi in the Zhongdantian. He skipped the step of Yuanying and turned directly into a crystal clear bead that shimmered with colored light. .

Hunyuanzhu!

But this bead is not big, just the size of a finger.

According to the description in the Yiyuan Taoist Scripture, the Hunyuan Pearl, which is truly condensed into a spirit, should be as big as a fist.

This is mainly because Chen Mobai didn't spend much energy on Hunyuan Zhenqi. After all, the original practice of this was just because it was helpful for forming a baby. Later, he didn't want to waste it and it could consume the five elements essence in stock, so he Keep practicing.

But after all, these Hunyuan Qi were not combined with his divine consciousness to give birth to Yuanying spirituality. Therefore, even if he is now able to condense it with the help of the Divine Transformation state and the assistance of Lvwuyin, it will show that he is inherently deficient.

But for Chen Mobai, as long as he can practice it, he will be very satisfied.

Under the blessing of Chunyang Dao, the little Hunyuan Pearl, which was just born and seemed to be flickering and not stable, gradually began to condense. While becoming smaller, it became more solid. .

At the same time, Chen Mobai also took over the Tianmu Diluo Formation on the East Barren side and extracted all the pure Five Elements spiritual energy accumulated in the spiritual hubs of the major immortal cities of the Five Elements Sect.

This action naturally made all the Nascent Soul monks on the Five Elements Sect aware.

They looked towards the Eastern Wasteland from the sky, and found streams of colorful light, which began to flow towards Tianpeng Mountain in distinct directions under an undetectable force.

[Junior Brother Head, it’s done! ? 】

Seeing this scene, Zhou Shengqing and others were both shocked and delighted.

"Senior brother, isn't the head brother practicing the Fire Immortal Sutra? Looking at this situation, it looks like the One Yuan Dao Sutra!"

Fu Zongjue felt something strange, and couldn't help but look puzzled.

"The Immortal Sutra of the Fire Element of the Immortality Sect can only be practiced to the realm of deity transformation at most. With the talent of the head disciple, he will definitely become an ascended monk like the Patriarch of One Yuan in the future, so he takes advantage of the opportunity to unify the five elements with the element of fire and practice the One Yuan Dao. Scripture is the right principle.”

Zhou Shengqing, on the other hand, came up with an answer in his own mind, and even looked certain.

After hearing this, Fu Zongjue also looked stunned.

After all, all the inheritance of the Yiyuan Dao Palace have been moved to the Five Elements Sect. After the Dharmakaya Nascent Soul, he has also studied the entire book. He knows that the Yiyuan Dao Sutra can be cultivated to the highest level of practice, and it is a well-deserved top secret book.

With such talent as the head disciple, after transforming into a god, he really needs to seriously consider his ascension!

"When junior brother transforms into a god and goes to Wudi Mountain to invite the Hunyuan Bell, our Five Elements Sect will be able to officially declare it to be a holy land!" Fu Zongjue's eyes were full of expectation.

Boom!

And at this moment, an earth-shaking thunderous roar exploded in the sky above Donghuang.

Zhou Shengqing and Fu Zongjue both felt that their Nascent Soul body was beginning to collapse the moment they heard the thunder.

“Junior brother’s Divine Transformation Heavenly Tribulation actually still exists?”

"The previous estimates were just a prelude. Now is the real catastrophe. Let's hide in the formation, lest our junior brother turns into a god and the two of us are dead."

Brother Zhou Shengqing is currently in Jumuling, and Tianpeng Mountain is in Yunjun next door. When Chen Mobai used the Heavenly Curtain and Earth Network to extract the five elements of spiritual energy from the entire Eastern Wasteland, the two of them were curious and flew out of the formation's coverage area, wanting to get down and see what was going on.

After Chen Mobai transformed into a god with the Yiyuan Dao Sutra and condensed the Hunyuan Pearl, he did not hide his own energy to transform into a god, preparing to overcome the tribulation.

Everyone's heavenly calamity is triggered by the energy released after the breakthrough.

Chen Mobai's situation can be said to be unprecedented in the Tianhe Realm, so the catastrophe caused by it is also unprecedentedly powerful.

Even the aftermath of the shock contained terrible catastrophic power, making Zhou Shengqing and the other Dharma Body Nascent Souls who were close to them unable to bear it.

Boom!

A bright bolt of lightning, like splitting the heaven and the earth, fell from the Nine Tiangang, carrying the ice that froze everything, and hit Tianpeng Mountain heavily.

But Chen Mobai, who was standing on the top of the mountain, faced this kind of catastrophe without even batting an eyelid.

First of all, the Ten Thousand Swords Dharma Body, which is higher than the mountain, rises from the ground. With the blessing of the Fruit of the Law of Dao and Chen Mobai's own state of becoming a god, it is even more powerful than before.

But compared to the second soul, it is still weaker.

A golden orb rose from the back of Chen Mobai's head, controlled by a sword of holy virtue with a concentrated aura, and landed on the left shoulder of Wanjian Dharma Body.

With the protection of Wanjian Dharmakaya and the second soul, Chen Mobai continued to immerse himself in the condensed Hunyuan Pearl.

If you are deficient in nature, you can only make up for it the day after tomorrow.

As all the five elements of spiritual energy in the Donghuang Tianmu Ground Network surged in, the spiritual energy level of the Tianpeng Mountain Spiritual Land briefly reached the fifth level of high-grade.

This made Chen Mobai slightly disappointed, but when he thought that all the spiritual veins of the Earth Yuan Star were superimposed, he could only reach the sixth level, so he understood.

But after he included all the three frontier areas of Dongzhou into the Tianmu Diluo, he probably had sixth-order spiritual veins.

It was just that he was still short of a treasure that could suppress the sixth-level spiritual veins. The Yuanyang Sword would definitely not work if he followed him, and he didn't know if the Hunyuan Bell would be willing to come.

If that didn't work, he could only refine one.

After Chen Mobai became a god, the Dao Fruit he had previously refined from the Dan Ding Jade Tree was automatically upgraded, allowing him to master the sixth-level weapon refining technique.

Apart from the others, he was planning to upgrade the Tushita Eight Scenery Lamp.

After all, the Tushita Fire was so useful that it would be needed for both weapon refining and pill refining in the future.

While thinking about refining, Chen Mobai kept refining the Hunyuan Pearl, but because the grade of the five elements of spiritual energy in the East Wasteland was too low, the progress was not fast.

Chen Mobai had no way to deal with this.

After all, the East Wasteland only had this much background, and if he condensed it at the Immortal Gate, it would be hard to explain why he, a Pure Yang Volume practitioner, used so much five elements of spiritual energy.

Fortunately, Chen Mobai still had some wealth. He poured out all the hundreds of top-grade spirit stones and hundreds of thousands of high-grade spirit stones that he had accumulated for a long time from his special storage bag.

The rest of the middle and low-grade spirit stones were almost useless to him, so there were only a few scattered pieces in the storage bag for rewards.

He urged the Hunyuan Pearl in his palm to shine on the spirit stones. In an instant, these originally bright and radiant spirit stones began to dim, but then the Hunyuan Pearl began to grow at a speed visible to the naked eye.

From the original thumb size, it became like a pebble.

But for Chen Mobai, this was not enough.

His majestic spiritual consciousness moved, and soon he found the spirit library built by the Five Elements Sect in various places, which stored a huge amount of five elements essence.

Chen Mobai had used some of it to condense the Hunyuan Qi and the Wanjian Dharma Body before, but because the economy in the East Wasteland has been a bit down in recent years, there are more and more cultivators who sell their spiritual power. Not only are the original spiritual stores full, but many new ones have even been built in the major immortal cities.

Under the divine consciousness of the Transformation Realm, all these spiritual stores are opened, and all the five elements of essence are like five colorful dragon-shaped streams, rising from the major immortal cities in the East Wasteland, with a dragon-like roar, rushing towards the direction of Yun County.

On this day, all the cultivators remembered the magnificent and brilliant scene of colorful dragons flying in the city.

Because later they all knew that this was the vision of the Five Elements Sect's master's transformation of the God!

As the five elements of essence from all over the East Wasteland poured in, the Hunyuan Pearl began to become more restrained.

Compared with spiritual energy, these essences do not need to be refined, and can be directly swallowed to transform into Hunyuan Qi, so the progress began to become faster.

Rumble!

At this time, Chen Mobai's divine transformation heavenly tribulation had almost evolved to the most intense level. In addition to the original crystal cold white thunder, there was also a gray airflow that twisted and shattered the void.

Faced with this situation, the second soul flew up from the shoulder of the Wanjian Dharma Body, driving the Yuanyang Sword, and turned into a phoenix with golden body and red feathers on its head.

Accompanied by a clear phoenix cry, the gray airflow falling from the nine heavens was immediately blocked by the holy light of the phoenix's wings.

Two terrible avenues collided in the sky above the East Wilderness, erupting with waves that frightened all living beings.

All the immortal cultivators felt that life and death were out of their control at this moment.

Any aftermath of the heavenly tribulation that fell on the earth could at least destroy half of the East Wilderness.

This must be the divine transformation heavenly tribulation!

At this time, any immortal cultivator with a little knowledge knew the reason.

The supreme leader of the Five Elements Sect finally took that step and became the top existence in Dongzhou.

And this news was quickly conveyed by the spies left in Donghuang by the major forces.

Dongli.

Kuang Jiyuan of Xuanji Demon Sect told the news that Chen Guixian of the Five Elements Sect had triggered the divine calamity. The White Bone Dharma King nodded gently and asked: "Is there any news from the old lewd dragon?"

Kuang Jiyuan shook his head.

But at this time, a ray of moonlight fell from the sky and turned into a graceful figure. It was Diao Xianlan. She handed over a golden page with a happy face: "The Xuanjiao King Court agreed to join forces with us!"

When the White Bone Dharma King heard the news, he immediately took the golden page and couldn't help laughing after reading it.

"Well, well, the Nine Heavens Demon Sect is really unpopular, and it's time to destroy it!"

For the White Bone Dharma King, his greatest hatred in Dongzhou is only Yuan Qingque.

Now that Yuan Qingque has ascended, even if he has cultivated into the Supreme Heavenly Demon, he dare not go to the Lingkong Immortal Realm to seek revenge, so he can only vent his anger on the Jiutian Dangmo Sect in the human world.

It just so happens that now is the weakest time for the Jiutian Dangmo Sect in tens of thousands of years.

Without the incarnation of the spirit, even with the sixth-level formation, Tongtian Refining Dao Tower, Taihe Sword and other sixth-level treasures, they cannot play their full role.

Wuchen is protecting Shenxi's incarnation, and the one from the Five Elements Sect is also incarnating himself. The Dongli Demon Dao led by him and the Xuanjiao Royal Court will join forces. They only need to pass the level of Dakong Zhenjun to go straight to Huanglong and flatten Tongtian Peak.

Even according to the understanding of the White Bone Dharma King, Dakong Zhenjun may not help.

Thinking of this, the White Bone Dharma King could no longer hold back!

"Go!"

With an order, the Dongli Demon Dao, which had been silent for several years, began to surge again!

...

Chen Mobai didn't know that the news that he had triggered the divine transformation heavenly tribulation had made the Xuanjiao Wangting determined to join forces with the Dongli Demon Dao to first exterminate a holy land and weaken the strength of the righteous path.

At this time, he was completely immersed in the process of refining the Hunyuan Pearl.

After the five elements' essence was exhausted, in order to avoid wasting so much investment in the past, he could only take out the treasures at the bottom of his box!

The realm was opened, and the five elements spirit tree, which had recovered some of the fifth-level aura, appeared on the top of Tianpeng Mountain. The five elements Taoist fruits hanging on several jade branches, under Chen Mobai's consciousness, broke away from the branches one by one and flew around the Hunyuan Pearl.

In the air, the second Yuanshen Danfeng, who was fighting the heavenly tribulation, also opened his mouth and spit out a fiery red Taoist fruit.

After the five elements Taoist fruits gathered, Chen Mobai condensed the method of Hunyuan according to the records of the Yiyuan Dao Sutra and arranged them into a large formation of five elements rotation.

With his current state of transformation, it was naturally easy for him to refine and activate the Five Elements Dao Fruit.

The power of the Five Elements Dao began to overflow from the Dao Fruit and entangled the Hunyuan Pearl.

As time passed slowly, Chen Mobai's understanding of the One Yuan Dao Sutra became more and more profound. In addition to the fire element, which he had already entered, the other four elements were also mastered one by one in the mysterious Dao rhyme of the Hunyuan Pearl.

Accompanied by an unprecedented brilliant colorful light, the Hunyuan Pearl finally swallowed all the Five Elements Dao Fruits and truly took shape, even far exceeding the fist size recorded in the Dao Sutra, almost the size of a baby's head.

Chen Mobai looked at the Hunyuan Pearl in front of him, and his mind moved. Under the illumination of the colorful light, the surrounding void began to dissolve and turned into the most original and pure spiritual energy.

This is the mystery of the Hunyuan Pearl. It can refine the void into spiritual energy. If you practice this pearl, you will never have to worry about insufficient spiritual energy.

Boom!

The sound of the heavenly tribulation fell into Chen Mobai's ears again. He looked up and stretched out his hand to wave the Hunyuan Pearl in front of him.

Under his spiritual consciousness, the Hunyuan Pearl changed in mid-air and finally turned into a colorful peacock, crashing into the dark and cloudy heavenly tribulation.

The colorful peacock waved its wings, and the brilliant colorful light flashed, like a colorful sun, turning all the heavenly tribulations it touched into the most original spiritual energy of heaven and earth.

The cold sky thunder turned into ice spiritual energy, and the gray airflow turned into Yin spiritual energy. At this moment, the sky was like a colorful spiritual energy rain, falling on the East Wilderness with Tianpeng Mountain as the center.

After Chen Mobai dispersed the heavenly tribulation with the Hunyuan Pearl, a happy smile appeared on his face.

At this time, his original spirit also turned into a blue bird and flew out.

In the sky, blue birds, red phoenixes, and birds were flying.

Compared with the three blue bird Dharma images of Dan Ding Taoist, his is not much worse!