New Shun 1730
Chapter 240 Pay taxes and be a good businessman
As for how many people can really understand, Liu Yu doesn't care.
If you really don't have this ability, then just lie down and be a big fat sheep.
After these words, everyone was shocked. The merchants present really didn't expect, nor dared to expect, that Liu Yu would say this.
Even if Liu Yu suddenly changed his face and forced them to "pay donations", they would not be surprised.
These words... didn't touch their hearts, but they touched their hearts. One by one, they secretly guessed, wondering if this would be the attitude of the court?
Could it be that the court wanted to say this, but it was not easy to say so, so they only asked Ying Suobo to come forward to talk?
Or did Ying Suobo really think so?
Scholars, farmers, merchants and businessmen are all one? This, this seems too nonsense.
Although there have been many similar calls from the Southern Confucian School in recent years, some words are really not easy to say too much.
More explanations of righteousness and profit are aimed at officials. Officials must make political achievements, which is called utilitarianism, and this kind of utilitarianism can reflect righteousness.
It does not mean that the behavior of businessmen is in line with the righteousness.
Some people with bright minds pondered these words and felt that although they did not understand Confucianism and were not masters, these words seemed to make sense, and they could spend money to find someone to interpret them carefully.
Some people also thought that it was okay to just listen to these words and be happy.
It is better to have less trouble than more trouble. Just keep these words in your heart and don't make any waves.
There was no situation where people bowed their heads and cried bitterly, thinking that they were soulmates.
There is also a most important reason, that is, the "cultural level" of this group of people is not very good.
They may know how to engage in the textile industry, how to trade, how to keep accounts and lend money, and even know how to predict the futures of Liaodong soybeans next year, but few of them understand Confucianism and can be called great Confucian scholars.
Fortunately, Liu Yu is also a half-baked person. A half-baked person says half-baked words, and the listeners are also half-baked. When it comes to this level, everyone can understand it.
If you understand it, you will naturally praise it a few times. The direction of this praise is something Liu Yu never expected.
"Ying Suo Bo is really a gentleman. It turns out that this is the truth. It is really incomprehensible to us vulgar villains."
"Yes, yes, Ying Suo Bo really seeks profit by doing what is right, and calculates the merits by clarifying the way..."
A good discussion about righteousness and profit has become a personal praise meeting under the inertia of the times.
Liu Yu was also a little helpless and smiled: "There is no need to say such words. If a cook can get praise from a good cook, it is happy. But if a person who has been hungry for a few days praises it, it is meaningless to listen to it."
"What do you know about gentlemen? I would be happy if I asked you to praise me a few times."
Naturally, this topic was led aside. In the laughter, no one thought about the first doubt raised by Lin Yunwen.
But for the second question, Liu Yu did not answer it directly at all, but reassured everyone in the way he least wanted.
"My family has been a noble family for four generations. I can guarantee that no one will make trouble out of nothing for anyone I invest in, let alone implicate others. Is this reason enough?"
"As for the court...it's not a one-day job, so you can take your time. If you really pay enough taxes and make the area prosperous in the future, then this will make sense."
"Otherwise, how can you make changes with empty words?"
The second question that the businessmen are concerned about is whether the court can protect the property of the businessmen and establish laws to clarify the responsibilities of this joint-stock company.
In essence, it is still whether the strength of the businessmen can make the court compromise, which is what they have fought for.
But Liu Yu's answer is "Because we have an emperor who is not bound by any law, and my family is the emperor's five generations of loyal dogs, so I can guarantee that your shares will not be snatched away by others."
Another interpretation of this sentence is "Because we have an emperor who is not bound by any law, no one can control the emperor if he wants to take away your property."
It means the same thing, which is nothing more than the front and back of the pancake.
Liu Yu thought to himself that you have no ability to force the emperor to make laws, but you are dreaming here, waiting for the emperor to bring you what you think of.
Since you want to fart, I will give you fart.
The taste of this fart is quite strong, and the merchants are very happy.
Everyone thought, yes, Ying Suobo's family has four generations of five nobles. With such a relationship, such an identity, and such a status, as long as he participates in the shares, naturally no one dares to touch his rules. As long as he wants to evade taxes, who dares to accept it?
Now it seems that Ying Suobo is also very different from the others. Before, the silver thrown out by this trading company was also hundreds of thousands of taels, and he was not tempted.
There is also a guarantee, how can it not work?
Since there are two sides to the sesame cake, naturally some people will think that if something happens to Yiguogong and Ying Suobo's family in the future, won't we all be implicated?
Some people think more about the positive side, and some think more about the negative side, so this matter is easier to handle.
There weren't many shares to be raised originally, and those who were willing to pay were enough. Liu Yu just wanted to lead the trend and form a strong pre-capitalist style in Songjiang, forming capital flows between the north and the south.
Capital must be put into motion, and it can't all be stored in the cellars of each family.
I also know that some people will shrink back because of this, but there will definitely be people who are willing to take a gamble. Sometimes, it is a group of gamblers, not conservatives, who drive the world.
"Everyone, since we are talking about the matter of property not being moved lightly, we must know that we need to pay taxes. The more taxes you pay, the more stable your industry will be."
"I have also inquired about the tax laws of Westerners. For example, glass is taxed according to the raw materials. A certain tax is collected for each load of raw materials."
"We didn't have the glass industry before. Since there is no competition, I think it's better to do this."
"In the future, each piece of glass produced will pay a few cents or a few cents of tax. It cannot be escaped, and it is also convenient for record keeping."
"Since this tax is our initiative, it will be paid to the customs."
"In addition, I think this stock transaction will also require a certain tax, so that the government can make the decision. What do you think?"
If it were anything else, it would be natural to be unwilling to pay taxes in this way.
But glass, matches, and even stocks are all things that have been created from scratch. There is no interest to be affected for the time being.
First, the rules are established, and there is no competition, so the merchants will definitely be willing.
Because...what does taxing glass have to do with merchants?
The ones who pay taxes are those who buy glass.
Under the monopoly of technology, there is no competition, so there is no need to compete by avoiding taxes. Instead, why not pass the tax on to the buyer?
Moreover, even if it is several times cheaper than Western glass, those who can afford glass, matches, cigarettes, and stocks must be rich, and it is comfortable to collect taxes like this.
As for why it should be paid to the customs, everyone knows it in their hearts.
There are "insiders" in this customs. It must be to lay a political achievement for their own people.
Although they are not afraid of county officials but only afraid of the current management, and although the officials in the customs are not high-ranking, the power behind them is great. How can the people present not understand the key?
The court has never collected glass taxes, and this tax is paid voluntarily, so it is natural to pay it to whoever they want.
Moreover, the customs reports directly to the capital, and some of it is paid from the inner treasury.
Merchants have always regarded taxes as a kind of "bribe". Anyway, it is a bribe. Isn't it better to bypass the middlemen and bribe the capital or even the emperor directly? Who can have more power than the emperor?
It is rare to pay taxes voluntarily.
Liu Yu was a villain first and a gentleman later. He made things very clear. If you accept it, you can invest. If you don't accept it, you don't.
Zhou Yu beat Huang Gai, one willing to fight and the other willing to be beaten.
He took this opportunity to talk nonsense about the "meaning of taxation".
All the businessmen thought, who wants to listen to such nonsense? Taxation is meaningless, what does it have to do with us? Even if there is a war, it will not be on our heads. What benefit will we get from fighting Junggar and Luosha? According to reason, this flat tax should be paid by people in Gansu, what does it have to do with Jiangnan?
But it's nothing more than paying more taxes, so that the court can support it in the future.
Among the people present, Tian Ping was the happiest.
He had heard Liu Yu talk about the idea of collecting stamp duty on stock transactions a long time ago, and he also talked with Liu Yu about customs tariff reform and commercial tax reform.
He thought to himself that after all, he was his own people, and he might still be his own family in the future. Sure enough, he didn't forget himself when there was benefit.
One's own money is one thing, and the money handed in is another.
Following Liu Yu and buying shares, I made my own money.
The money handed in directly concerns my future. As long as there is a future, money is not a problem.
Tian Ping's mind is no longer on what Liu Yu said, but he is always keeping an eye on how much money this time can raise from the shares.
According to the tax rate of 0.2-0.3 per share, it is already very low, but if the amount is large, it will be several thousand taels of silver.
Songjiang Customs only collects tens of thousands of taels a year. If there are thousands or tens of thousands of taels at once, wouldn't it be a "capable official"?
Since taxes are collected, the interests of these people must be guaranteed. Tian Ping thought that this was simple. Songjiang is just a prefecture, and the prefect is nothing. This is a non-existent tax. The prefect doesn't dare to steal his political achievements.
It is impossible to become a high official in the future. The eldest brother in the family will inherit the title, and the court will not let him do too much. But if he is promoted to a regular customs inspector, it will be a way out.
Listening to Liu Yu's way of raising shares, he became more and more delighted. It seems that most of the workshops established by raising shares have their headquarters in Songjiang, so the tax must naturally be paid to Songjiang.
Among these businesses, the merchants feel that there are big profits, small profits, and uncertain losses.
Those that feel big profits are workshops such as glass and alkali noodles. These technologies are either not yet known by Westerners, or Westerners know them but the transportation is too wasteful.
Those that feel small profits are likely to be made, such as cigarettes and matches. These sound like they should not lose money, but they are all new things, so it is difficult to say how much they can make.
Those that feel uncertain profits and losses are arms, iron smelting, gunpowder, shipbuilding, etc.
Through the attitudes of these merchants, Liu Yu can judge the status of these industries in the minds of merchants and their expectations for the future.
I can only say that I feel it is amazing that the prospects shown by merchants are exactly the opposite of what he understands. Merchants are not very interested in investing in arms, such as big business.
Since this is the case, the risk is shared and all workshops are tied together. Those who subscribe to workshop stocks such as glass, alkali noodles, and cigarettes must also subscribe to a fixed proportion of arms, iron smelting, etc.
Anyway, they can all be traded, and we will see the situation in the future.
After completing the subscription and fundraising on the spot, Tian Ping's mouth corners have risen to reveal his back teeth. This year, the customs silver escorted to Beijing will definitely surge.
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