New Shun 1730
Chapter 847 Win-Win (Part 2)
The specific details of the cooperation will be discussed slowly after returning to Amsterdam.
On the day when the Sino-Dutch Brussels Treaty was signed, the two groups of messengers quickly left on horseback.
They took the northern route, through the personal relationship between Liu Yu and the Russian tsarine, and took the Russian post road to the capital from the northern route.
They took the southern route, through the relationship between France and the Ottoman Empire, through Turkey and Persia to India, and rushed to rule the South Seas before the monsoon came, preparing to ship goods.
Now it is against the wind, even if the ship can set sail, it will take until March or April next year to arrive. There is no other way, so we have to let the horses run. If we really have to wait until March or April, Dashun will not be able to bear it.
Whether the Netherlands can reach an agreement is directly related to Dashun's entire South Sea policy and trade policy.
If the Netherlands cannot reach an agreement, then it can only engage in a "distribution region monopoly system", and the white silver cannot be wasted.
If the Netherlands reaches an agreement, it will definitely ship and ship directly, and the Netherlands will still control the spice trade in Europe, and Dashun will work together as a partner.
Although Dashun has a silver foundation from more than 100 years of overseas trade in the Ming Dynasty, the Nanyang stall is too big, and no matter how thick the foundation is, it can't wait.
Here, there is the difference between "capital flow" and "total assets".
Just like VOC, the total assets are definitely not just a few million taels of silver. However, before, Dashun only cut off the Dutch trade with Japan and cut off the East India Company's capital flow, and the East India Company immediately ran into problems.
The same is true for Dashun.
The ports, fortresses, garrisons, control, land, and land in Nanyang are all considered total assets.
However, from the beginning of the war to now, if we miss it this year, there will be no trade for two years. In order to protect the foundation that the Dutch in Nanyang have transformed, Dashun is now taking real money to receive goods.
Just like Ambon and other places, they have been completely transformed by the Netherlands into a spice production area. If Dashun does not receive the goods, let alone whether the locals will starve to death, at least in order to eat, it is possible to cut down trees and plant cassava first, right?
Eating cassava these days is likely to cause cyanide poisoning, but just like the immigrants of Dashun who planted rye and ergot poisoning at the mouth of the Heilongjiang River, many people died every year, but they had to eat it.
If Dashun did not have a navy, it would be easy for the locals.
If Dashun did not want it, there were plenty of people in Britain and Portugal who wanted it.
However, Dashun had a navy that caught "smuggling" stipulated by Dashun everywhere, and the British East India Company did not dare to provoke Dashun at this time in view of the sensitivity of the Indian issue and the desire for a monopoly in the distribution area.
In this case, before the money was made, a large amount of funds were turned into goods in the warehouse. If it was piled up for another year, the cash flow chain of the newly established Western Trading Company would be directly broken.
At this time in the world, no company had the ability to hoard the total amount of goods for the entire East Asian and Southeast Asian trade for two or three years. Even the household government of Dashun could not eat or hoard it.
However, since China and the Netherlands signed the Treaty of Brussels and the Netherlands did drive away the Orange family, regardless of the process, the result was indeed acceptable to Dashun.
With this general tone, subsequent negotiations will be easy.
When the news of the Sino-Dutch and Franco-Dutch peace talks in Brussels reached Amsterdam, Amsterdam immediately fell into a carnival and held a grand fireworks display.
During the fireworks display, composer Friedrich Handel, who had a good personal relationship with William IV and Princess Anne, refused to compose any celebratory songs for the Dutch, and thought that the Dutch had betrayed Britain, and left angrily for London.
But the Dutch didn't care.
For most Dutch people, the fact that the French no longer attacked and occupied the Netherlands was a great event worth celebrating. On such a happy day, one more piece of music was just icing on the cake.
Since this kind of thing was icing on the cake, who was the one who sent charcoal in the snow?
Of course, it wasn't the French.
As far as this matter was concerned, the one who sent charcoal in the snow was of course Dashun, who acted as a guarantor and mediated the negotiations.
Moreover, just after the news of the Brussels negotiations came, the people on the Dashun side, in the capacity of Dashun officials, bought a batch of grain, and used the organizational ability of Dashun when distributing grain for disaster relief to distribute it to the Dutch people in several large cities, which greatly improved their goodwill.
Kang Budai thought very clearly about this.
The lower-class people in the Netherlands who could not even bear the price increase of grain, needless to say, definitely did not have the stocks of the East India Company, and certainly had never bought the bonds issued by the East India Company.
The East India Company went bankrupt. For them, if someone guided them, it would naturally be hatred, and if no one guided them, it would be so-so.
What's it to do with them?
And those real financiers, bankers, and major shareholders of the East India Company only need to tell them that Dashun will cooperate with the Netherlands and they still have the opportunity to buy shares, and they will naturally forget the previous hatred.
The only people that Dashun has offended to death?
Naturally, those middle-class people.
The family property is not much, not to the level of financiers and big businessmen, but they also bought some stocks or bonds of the East India Company that year.
These people have been offended to death by Dashun, and it is useless to please them. In this case, then simply don't dare.
Spend some money to buy food to improve the favor of the lower classes.
Cooperate in smuggling to improve the favor of financiers and commercial capital.
As for the middle class, just oppose the Dashun, what else can you expect?
Kang Budai agrees with what Liu Yu said. Trying to please all classes will inevitably result in dissatisfaction among all classes. Instead of doing this, those classes that cost too much to please but have little benefit should just give up and not think about pleasing them.
This statement works in Dashun, and it has always worked in all dynasties: peasants are of course worth uniting, because if they are not united, Li Zicheng will emerge; literati and landlords are of course worth uniting, because if they are not united, the bureaucracy will oppose the court; only merchants, if you mess with them, they will not become Li Zicheng, and if you please them and let them buy land and become officials, then land annexation will accelerate unprecedentedly.
This principle is also applicable in the Netherlands.
Kang Budai doesn't care about those who may oppose Dashun.
This is just the beginning. When a large amount of goods from Dashun pour in in the future, it will be completely offended. Today's little thing is not a big deal.
Kang Budai saw it from this coup and the previous regent faction.
If you want to cooperate with the Netherlands, you only need to establish good relations with those big bankers and big businessmen; it is enough to make the lowest-level people not disgusted.
The middle part of the people will not succeed.
At least not for the time being.
Against this background, the negotiations on the details of the cooperation between Dashun and the Netherlands were carried out in a very strange order.
Every day, a large number of Dutch people are paying attention to the news of the negotiations between the two sides.
And the two most dangerous news directly satisfied the two classes of people that Dashun was ready to cooperate with.
First, Dashun announced that it would fully cooperate with the Netherlands. Spices in Southeast Asia, including Ceylon, will be monopolized by the Sino-Dutch Joint Trade Company. Dashun will ensure that spices in Southeast Asia will not be given to other countries. Dashun may invest in national debt in Amsterdam in the future.
Then, the Sino-Dutch Joint Trade Company will manufacture escort ships in the Netherlands with an order of no less than 400,000 taels of Kuping silver. Among them, the fleet's cables, cloth, canvas, barrels, etc. are all purchased in the Netherlands and ordered in the form of orders.
The Sino-Dutch Joint Trade Company will expand the docks and ports in Amsterdam. Priority will be given to hiring the large number of people in the Netherlands who are having difficulty making a living due to war and rising food prices, or retired soldiers.
In order to protect the neutrality of the Netherlands from being threatened by a third party, the Netherlands will allow Dashun's warships to dock in the Netherlands - provided that Dashun does not go to war with any European country, that is, it is neutral. And all supplies and ship repairs will be carried out in cooperation with the Dutch docks and the Amsterdam Provincial Shipbuilding Guild.
These two pieces of news were released before even the shareholding ratio, trade returns, and cooperation model were negotiated.
These two pieces of news spread quickly and were passed on by word of mouth among the Dutch who were paying attention to the negotiations between the two sides.
This not only pleases the Dutch commercial capital, but also pleases at least a large number of middle and lower class people in Amsterdam.
It seems that Sino-Dutch cooperation is indeed a win-win model cooperation.
Dashun solved the problem of the initiative in European trade; after losing the East Indian colony, the Netherlands miraculously regained the monopoly of spice monopoly and tea sales in the European market as if blessed by God.
Dashun finally extended its tentacles to Europe; the Netherlands had a neutral status guaranteed by the two great powers of China and France.
Dashun finally obtained a reliable anchorage in Europe; the Netherlands obtained some urgently needed orders and investments to stabilize the severe poverty problem after the war.
Dashun finally got a good borrowing place with an annual interest rate of less than 36%; the Netherlands got a high-quality borrower with an annual interest rate of more than 5%.
Dashun's budding handicraft capital found a market; the Netherlands' developed commercial capital found the source of goods.
Dashun found a base for naval crew officers to be familiar with the Atlantic sea conditions; the Netherlands got an escort that might be almost free.
Dashun borrowed the Cape, a transit point between Asia and Europe, and got the sea route to connect Sweden and Russia; the Netherlands got the possibility of returning to the Baltic trade.
Don't consider that Dashun had just snatched Southeast Asia, Ceylon and India from the Netherlands; don't consider that it was Dashun who helped France capture the Maastricht fortress group...
Indeed, a win-win situation.
After the general direction of these two negotiations was released in advance, the negotiations between China and the Netherlands reached the core part.
The cooperation model proposed by Dashun is led by Dashun.
After the East India Company went bankrupt and its monopoly was abolished, the Dutch government should grant the monopoly to the newly established Sino-Dutch Trade Company; of course, Dashun also granted the monopoly of spice trade to the Sino-Dutch Trade Company.
The previous VOC monopolized the production area and the market.
Now, the monopoly of production area and market sales is divided into two.
Since both sides want to cooperate, they naturally have to clarify the issue of monopoly rights first.
The Dutch side has no objection to this point, which is normal and should be so.
But the next question makes the Dutch side a little uncomfortable.
The shareholding ratio of Dashun should reach 55%, and the Dutch side is preferably 45%.
Moreover, within three to five years, Dashun will carry out comprehensive government supervision, and all decisions will be made by Dashun's Industrial and Commercial Bureau headed by Liu Yu.
After three to five years, the board of directors will be elected according to the shareholding ratio to make decisions.
As for the Netherlands, should they follow the previous East India Company system where the chambers of commerce in each province hold shares, or should they implement open shareholding? This is a problem for the Netherlands and Dashun has no say in it.
Of course, during the three to five years of supervision, Dashun will guarantee the annual interest dividends for Dutch shareholders. Whether it is a loss or a profit in the early stage, it will be distributed according to a fixed annual interest during the supervision period, and it will not be offset by tea and spices like VOC.
However, since it is a negotiation, it is impossible to directly state the bottom line, but to give a bargaining space.
Therefore, Kang Budai bit a little harder.
The annual interest rate of Liu Yu's dividend is 12%.
This is a calculated data, and it is also a bottom line that Dashun's merchants can accept.
On the one hand, Dashun's direction is completely different from that of the Dutch East India Company. Since Dashun itself is the only producer of spices, tea, and high-end porcelain in the world, then Dashun can ignore the export tax issue and pay the monopoly purchase fee.
Secondly, as a producer, Dashun can guarantee the quality, quantity, and quality of tea. There will never be a situation similar to the Ostend Tea Incident where other companies are strangled.
Then, Dashun will also increase the export tariffs on tea and porcelain from the Danish East India Company, and even send people to pretend to be pirates, squatting near the Danish colony in Tamil Nadu, India, specifically to rob the Danish company's ships.
At the same time, Dashun's attitude towards Nanyang is that it is a place of raw material production and a place for dumping goods, and it will not use the means of curbing the development of productivity that the Netherlands has.
In addition, Dashun's dominance over Nanyang is much stronger than that of the Netherlands. The distance factor is there, the traditional factor is there, and there is a huge Chinese population base in Southeast Asia. This can save a lot of repression costs.
In addition, Dashun also has some newly developed commodities in recent years that can be sold. There is also the Sino-Dutch Trade Company, which does not have a local faction like "Batavia" to hinder it.
In short, various natural and man-made advantages make the profit of this trade cooperation not too low. Not to mention the nearly 20% profit of the East India Company, there is definitely no problem with about 12%.
But the first offer given by Kang Budai in the negotiation was 30% of the Dutch equity and an annual return rate of 8% during the regulatory period.
Convenient bargaining.
After all, this incident was not about the Dashun sending gunboats to Amsterdam, capturing the fortress, and forcing the Netherlands to sign a treaty.
The Dashun did not want to take over Southeast Asia, and could return Southeast Asia in the negotiations, which was called a bargaining chip; the Dashun directly took over Southeast Asia and Ceylon, and also ruined the Dutch East India Company, which did not have many bargaining chips: at worst, they would break up, and the Netherlands would not deal with you, Dashun, and you could still attack Amsterdam?
The Dashun did not want a win-win situation at all. Who doesn't want to eat alone? But they had to win.
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