New Shun 1730
Chapter 876: Still a question of interests
"Knowing its evil and letting it go, this is the old wisdom of Duke Zheng of Zheng who defeated Duan Yuyan. I told you to read more history books, it seems to be of some use."
The emperor's tone has gradually become a little relaxed, at least it is much better than the previous expression of his face falling when he heard "take a long-term view".
Liu Yu did not think that this was the old wisdom of Duke Zheng who defeated Duan Yuyan, and he did not take Macau itself seriously at all.
He said that people despise the poor and love the rich, in fact, it has always been so. As long as Dashun broke out of Malacca, the affairs of Macau would not be a big deal at all.
Since the beginning of the spread of Eastern learning to the West in the late Ming Dynasty, Liu Yu said that the ruling class of the Central Plains dynasty was like a paramecium.
They are all passive and responsive; they are stimulated and react passively, and it is difficult to say that there is any subjective initiative.
This is also true for banning religion. They are shocked and then react on their own.
But whether the reaction is intense depends on the ability of the stimulator, or the strength of another civilization. For example, the dynasties have never been stimulated by the chieftains in the southwest, and it is unlikely to be stimulated by the local states in Southeast Asia, and then react accordingly.
This is cultural confidence. The meaning of cultural confidence is that you must first believe in yourself. If you believe that you are civilized and represent civilization, then the barbarians are naturally scabies and will be assimilated by civilization sooner or later.
During the Han and Tang Dynasties, the distance was too far and the news was not smooth.
By the end of the Ming Dynasty, it should be the first time that the Celestial Empire discovered that there was a competitor who could be civilized in the distance. It was just because of the distance and cultural confidence that it did not actively participate in this civilization competition, but only adopted this passive and stressful mode.
Since Liu Yu was thinking about going to Southeast Asia, Dashun has taken the first step to actively participate in the competition of civilizations. When this step was taken, the Macau issue or the Catholic issue was actually a projection of the competition between Eastern and Western civilizations.
Liu Yu was not worried about the matter itself, but was worried about the many consequences that might result from this matter, and even caused Dashun to cut off communication.
Now the emperor's tone was a little more relaxed, and the stone hanging in Liu Yu's heart was also down.
However, greater concerns also followed.
This matter was just an accident.
But it is not accidental, but a situation that Dashun will inevitably encounter when it moves outward.
There will be more and more similar situations in the future.
If one thing is suppressed today, another thing will surface tomorrow, and the emperor's inner balance will continue to swing left and right until one day it completely leans to the other side.
Liu Yu knew that there was not much time left for Dashun.
The Enlightenment was already in full swing in France, and these things would make the emperor more nervous than Catholicism.
Dashun's special history of great unification and the reformed Confucian ideology, these characteristics made it so that the things that really made the emperor nervous had not yet appeared.
Just like the distorted Western-centric theological view of history similar to the previous Dutch issue, it seems that the Dutch model and the parasitic system that requires a national entity to provide military sailors and workers moved westward from Amsterdam to London, and then from London to New York; while Colbert's national industrialism-controlled economy moved from Paris to Moscow and then to Beijing...
The Enlightenment, which was in full swing in France at this time, could also be distortedly understood as Montesquieu's theory of decentralization, which was derived from the checks and balances of power in Western European feudalism in a certain sense, and Rousseau's theory of popular sovereignty and the origin of human inequality, which had already vaguely seen the worries of the new era, were two lines.
Given the special historical and economic foundation of Dashun, if it deepened exchanges with Europe in an equal and proactive manner, from the perspective of the emperor, the emperor would probably not care about the theory of decentralization and checks and balances, thinking that it was not a threat at all, just like the restoration of the old by corrupt scholars. Even the prime minister, the government, the real power, the feudal states, and the private soldiers were gone, so what was the balance of power and transition? It was like worrying that Han Changli would fall into the evil ghost path, which was nonsense and groundless.
But if he saw Rousseau's set one day, as a relatively professional emperor, he would certainly be very sensitive to find that this is the biggest threat to the Li Dynasty and the imperial power of Dashun, and it is also the set of things that are most likely to incite rebellion in Dashun.
Therefore, by then, the balance in his heart may no longer be swaying, but directly inclined to close the door.
Therefore, the time left for Dashun, or the time left for the emperor and Liu Yu to walk together without diverging, is really not much.
Before this "threat" that will inevitably cause the emperor to be a hundred times more worried now is transmitted here, a lot of foundations that should be laid should be laid.
This is difficult.
In addition, various unexpected events similar to this teaching case, and dangers that cannot be controlled by human power similar to the worry of controlling the Huai River, all put Liu Yu under great pressure.
When a stone falls to the ground, who knows when the next stone will hit the heart?
Pressing down the gourd will cause the dipper to rise.
The future is unknown, and Liu Yu can only deal with it one by one.
Seeing that the emperor was in a slightly relaxed mood, Liu Yu said something to make the emperor feel more at ease.
The emperor gradually felt at ease, and asked: "Since you said so, let's take a long-term view. You also said, lift it high and put it down gently."
"Then according to your opinion, how should the missionary Bai Duolu be dealt with?"
Liu Yu only said: "Your Majesty, the country has its own laws, and the king has his own edicts. When banning religion, how to determine the punishment has long been decided. How to deal with this person, it is enough to ask a criminal official, why ask me?"
The emperor nodded. He originally thought that Liu Yu wanted to temporarily release Bai Duolu or expel him from the country. But now that he said that, he only needed to ask a criminal officer, and the meaning was very clear.
Kill.
Since Liu Yu was asked to go out of the town to deal with the matter, and Liu Yu meant to punish him according to the law, the emperor did not ask any more questions.
Liu Yu below didn't know what he thought of, and suddenly laughed.
"Why are you laughing?"
"Your Majesty, please forgive me for my impoliteness. Your Majesty just asked about the matter of Pedro, and I suddenly thought of an interesting story."
The emperor was also a little curious, and Liu Yu said, "My Western learning teacher once told me some things about Catholicism."
"He said that if a martyr has performed miracles and great merits, he should be blessed and canonized in the future."
"Anyone who is blessed or canonized must have a portrait. In the portrait, there must be something hanging above his head, which is the object of his death. It may be a knife, a noose, etc., perhaps because the Spear of Longinus is a sacred object?"
"According to the rules of Catholicism, a usurper has a certain object as his symbol, and a martyr must be painted with a torture instrument."
There were many Catholic missionaries around the emperor before, and he knew about this.
Liu Yu couldn't help laughing and said, "I have seen people with axes, knives, and daggers painted on their heads... I just suddenly thought, if they were executed by cannon, how should this portrait be painted?"
The emperor was startled, then he imagined the funny look of the portrait, and couldn't help laughing, saying, "It's hard to paint! Hard to paint! You might as well try, I'm also a little curious."
This was a very bloody thing, but the emperor and his ministers didn't think it was strange, and they all laughed.
After laughing, the emperor said, "He has violated the laws of the Celestial Empire and died for his crimes. If the Vatican can canonize him in the future, his heart is damnable. Doesn't this mean that the laws of this dynasty are all wrong? Let's wait and see. If this is really done, I will leave an order to my descendants and send envoys to the Vatican to ask for punishment!"
This matter, from the perspective of the country, the emperor's idea is indeed correct: those who committed crimes and were killed in Dashun were canonized by another country. From the perspective of the country, it is definitely opposed.
Liu Yu thought to himself, this matter is simple. The people in the Vatican are hard-hearted. Worshiping Confucius is allowed because the puppet Manchukuo needs it; worshiping the pagan monarch is allowed because Japanese imperialism needs it. Aren't they all allowed?
When the time comes, a fleet will go there, which will be more effective than arguing 10,000 scriptures.
"Your Majesty is right. This matter involves the laws of the country and cannot be ignored. I will definitely live up to your Majesty's trust when I go to Macau this time, and I will definitely solve this matter without humiliating the Celestial Empire. Even if I say that I will take a long-term view, I will not take a long-term view and humiliate the country."
The emperor nodded and said, "My dear minister, I am relieved to do what you do. I said that the strategy is like this, and I will allow another fifteen years. You just remember to make them look bad and judge the compassion of those who know the world."
"The affairs of Fujian and Suzhou are nothing more than ignorant people and short-sighted villagers. But before, many students and gentry joined the church, and more deceived the literati, and even some people He proposed to use Christianity to supplement Confucianism. Even the important officials of the court believed in it. "
"You are right. It is easy to kill people, but difficult to destroy their hearts. This matter is indeed about destroying their hearts. As long as the scholars and knowledgeable people in the world are not deceived by it and see its hypocrisy, there will be no worries."
"You also know a lot about the affairs of Emperor Taizu and Emperor Taizong of this dynasty. If the gentry and scholars do not follow, it will be difficult to accomplish. If it is just the villagers, they may not be as good as Bai Lian Maitreya."
Liu Yu thought that it seemed to be the same. It seemed that the emperor was persuaded mainly because he wanted to break the good image of Catholicism in the hearts of some Confucian scholars.
Moreover, Liu Yu felt that there was a reason why the emperor believed in his method of destroying the heart.
On the surface, it seemed that the emperor agreed with the remarks that spared people's hearts.
In secret, the emperor actually accepted a truth imperceptibly: talking about benevolence and righteousness, talking about kingly politics, talking about conscience, and talking about the people, in the end, the word "interest" cannot be avoided.
The Jesuits and Dominicans were no exception.
In the days when money was the smell of money, the nobles were born into high positions and had millions of dollars at home, but they were just rustic and could not make a show of spending money.
Nowadays, even the emperor, everyone only hates that they don’t have enough money every day, so how can they have any feelings?
The emperor probably thought, I am rich in the world, from Heilongjiang to Nanyang, from the Western Regions to Japan, but I still lack money to spend, and I can’t afford to immigrate. How can you, the Jesuits, have so much money to subsidize these people?
In fact, Liu Yu didn’t know much about Catholicism and various churches.
He just adhered to the three most basic common sense and made logical inferences.
First of all, although the history of this world has changed a lot, it is still a real world, not a magical world. Therefore, things like five loaves and two fishes are absolutely impossible for the Jesuits or the Dominicans.
Secondly, in this era, the sacred halo of all professions that have always been respected and awe-inspiring has been wiped out. Doctors, lawyers, priests, poets and scholars will sooner or later become hired laborers.
Finally, Macau is a city that prospered and declined purely due to the Dashun trade policy. If its trade is cut off, it will be in chaos.
These three most basic common senses are enough to deduce the subsequent follow-ups.
Because the teacher who opened my eyes to Western learning was Dai Jinxian, even if I didn’t understand Catholicism in my previous life, I now know some internal affairs. Dai Jinxian also talked about some problems of the Jesuits and complained about some problems of the Jesuits and Dominicans.
Liu Yu felt that his inferences were almost the same.
However, in fact, or in history, the affairs of the Society of Jesus are much more outrageous than what he has inferred now.
In history, the Society of Jesus was banned precisely because of the word "money".
At least, it should be regarded as a fuse.
It happened within ten or twenty years. It seems that the president of the Society of Jesus in the Caribbean and Central America dioceses, like in Macau, did business while preaching.
He is French, and as we all know, the French navy was really lame at this time. If the navy is not good, it is difficult to do business in the Caribbean without losing money.
Then, of course, it went bankrupt.
In theory, the Society of Jesus International is quite rich.
Such a large organization can certainly pay back this money.
But the Society of Jesus felt that this was a personal act. Why should the collective property of the Society of Jesus be used to repay this bankruptcy debt?
So they refused to help repay the debt.
This fuse started the wave of France disbanding the Society of Jesus.
It was also because of the fierce fighting among various forces within France. The king might want to use the new forces to exclude the old forces. In addition, the problem of Louis XV's mistress, as well as the domestic Gallicism, centralism, and the Enlightenment movement, all did not deal with the Jesuits.
Taking advantage of the fact that the Jesuit missionaries owed money and did not pay it back, the Jesuits were abandoned.
There were only three countries that could give great support to the Jesuits.
Spain, France, and Portugal.
The Jesuits, who said in the joke that "the candles are out, which means that the evening prayers can be cancelled", also came up with the bizarre "South American Liberation Theology" two hundred years later.
In this period, the Jesuits also created the Paraguayan Jesuit Heaven on Earth in Paraguay, which seriously affected Portugal's rule in South America.
So, for Portugal, the Jesuits are also quite annoying.
Want God?
Or want a king?
This was originally a question of the war between the new and old religions, and more than a hundred years later, it also continued to the old religion countries.
In addition to the subsequent Lisbon earthquake, the Jesuits made shocking remarks.
It is said that earthquakes are warnings from heaven, and the interaction between heaven and man shows the moral corruption of Portugal.
We should think about cultivating morality.
It is also said that pretending that earthquakes are natural events is absurd. Even the devil can hardly make such an unbelievable excuse.
The devout Portuguese Catholics have therefore fallen into a theological paradox:
[If we save ourselves, is this not pious and not trusting God? Is this against God? ]
[If God is a fair punishment, the pious should accept such punishment. ]
[If God loves people, then we should not save ourselves, but wait for God to save us. We save ourselves after the earthquake, which means we do not trust God; and rescue after the earthquake is against God's fair punishment. ]
Fortunately, the Portuguese prime minister at the time was a ruthless man, and he arrested all the members of the Portuguese Jesuits.
Then he put a huge pot on the Jesuits - Portugal was across seven seas, and the Pope's meridian divided the world. How powerful was it? Now it has become like this, all due to the ignorance of the Jesuits.
Defeat the Jesuits and save the true God.
Portugal will not prosper unless the Jesuits perish.
In fact, this is the continuation of the struggle between "divine power and royal power" in the Protestant War a hundred years ago in the Catholic countries.
France and Portugal both oppose the Jesuits.
Spain is left, which seems to have nothing to do with economic interests. It seems that it is just because the Jesuits spread rumors, slandering that the king is actually a bastard and has an affair with the prime minister's wife.
But in fact, after removing the fog on the surface, it is still centralization, royal power and economic interests.
The King of Spain needs a group of secular, Spanish missionaries to go to the colonies, control the estates and lands of the colonies, and increase taxes.
Rather than a group of international, Catholic Jesuit missionaries.
In short, Spain, France, Portugal and other Catholic countries finally put pressure on each other to ban the Jesuits, so that the church forces in their own countries completely surrender to the royal power.
The Holy See also had to disband the Jesuits. But the result... the result is that the dignitaries of various countries finally found that compared with this group of blood-sucking Jesuits, the tricks of Paris that wanted to hang them on the street lights were more terrifying, and finally after the Emperor, they resumed.
Compared with Liu Yu's idea of using economic means to force the church to reveal its greed, the performances of European countries were actually better.
But in essence, they are not much different, the issue of economic interests and power.
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