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Chapter 930: Chinese Apache, stirring up the storm
As the two most prestigious military helicopters in active service in the United States, Black Hawk and Apache are active in local conflicts along with Uncle Sam.
When developing the Kunpeng heavy transport helicopter, Cao Yang also arranged personnel to benchmark Sikorsky's Black Hawk helicopter and develop a multi-purpose armed helicopter belonging to Venusstar Technology.
However, as Venusstar Technology moves towards more military products, products like Black Hawk are no longer good enough.
"Mr. Cao, the relevant department has proposed to us that Venusstar Technology can benchmark Apache to develop a professional armed helicopter."
"I think for the company, it is not a big problem to develop a professional armed helicopter based on existing technology."
Zhao Siyu brought several core technical personnel to report the planning of new products to Cao Yang in the conference room.
As Venusstar Technology's communication with relevant departments became smoother and smoother, various needs also appeared directly in front of Venusstar Technology.
He even felt that the conditions for the sale of CH-47 in Tianzhu could be relaxed.
Cao Yang did not hesitate any more. If there is a market, then develop it.
Anyway, America has a lot of chess pieces to move around China.
"No other company can match the speed of Venusstar's development of new products."
Although Zhao Tianling was a little dissatisfied with the decision of the relevant departments.
After all, the profits from the United States' foreign arms sales are often quite lucrative.
"Why are they suddenly going to copy our Apache now?"
Wan Jinniu is the head of the helicopter business under AVIC.
"I have heard about this, but our relationship with Boeing has been quite stiff during this period."
"It would be too much of a joke to suddenly adjust the plan that has been set before?"
AVIC can't do it by itself, but it can't let Venusstar do it, right?
If that's the case, they will be criticized to death.
After all, apart from the relevant departments, there are basically few other sources for these orders.
For Venusstar Technology, many things are actually universal.
Ivanchuk looked at Stephens a little confused.
There are hundreds of millions of dollars in profits behind that.
Cao Yang actually understood this point, but he was a little worried that when the new product is developed, it would lead to the lack of sales for the product developed to match the Black Hawk helicopter.
"We may not be able to help much with the engine and flight control, but we should still make some efforts in the fuselage."
"The Apache helicopter is obviously an independent double-side-by-side cockpit design, and there is no carrying space behind the cockpit. Instead, it is replaced by a huge general turboshaft engine and more fuel."
"If this is the case, the situation is not so clear."
"Since the relevant departments have a demand, we will develop it according to the needs of customers."
"But professional armed helicopters are not what they are good at after all. Isn't it a bit hasty to make some decisions before any products are produced?"
So every time he spoke, he was full of contempt for the relevant companies in China.
China naturally hopes that it can have similar products.
"At least we have to wait until their prototypes come out before making adjustments."
In fact, ordinary Americans know very little about China, and it is very one-sided.
Sikorsky is a professional helicopter company, and its main products are various helicopters.
"China is constantly developing its military strength in all aspects, and our previous methods of sanctioning Venusstar Technology have not had much effect."
Accompanying this conversation between Cao Yang and Zhao Siyu, a new project team was officially established within Venusstar Technology.
Venusstar Technology then developed a helicopter of the same type as the Black Hawk. Although it has not yet been finally developed, it is definitely a matter of time.
"I heard that the multi-purpose medium-sized helicopter they developed before to benchmark Sikorsky's Black Hawk helicopter has almost been developed."
"Can't the Black Hawk helicopter also be used as an armed helicopter?"
How can such a thing be tolerated?
"And all the designs of the Black Hawk helicopter are simple, whether it is the temporary Minigun firing port or the rigid aerodynamic shape that can be used to meet the bullet, it can prove the simplicity of the Black Hawk helicopter in design."
It seems that it is still a bit insufficient now.
So Venusstar Technology made some optimizations on the appearance before officially announcing the rendering.
But it is different from a professional armed helicopter after all.
Wan Jinniu even knew that the demand put forward by the relevant departments was to develop it to benchmark the American Apache armed helicopter.
"It can effectively destroy medium and heavy tanks, has good survivability and ultra-low altitude flying ability. As long as we develop similar products, it will hopefully become China's most important armed helicopter."
Although Stephens hoped that there would be problems with the development of the Black Hawk by Venusstar Technology, he was not really so naive as to pin his future on the opponent's mistakes.
China is definitely the largest consumer of military products, so Zhao Siyu thinks that the demands of relevant departments should be fully valued.
This time, Venusstar Technology is going to develop an armed helicopter to match the Apache, so that China can also have a professional armed helicopter like the Apache.
"The Black Hawk and the Apache are undoubtedly two excellent helicopters, but there are still big differences between the two helicopters."
Even the WZ-10, which started mass production two years ago, is not as good as the Apache.
He was a little unsure whether the news was a good thing or a bad thing for Sikorsky.
But their products have been produced for decades, and all costs have been amortized.
"Well, that's what I think too. As a professional anti-tank armed helicopter, the Apache has a rotating nose turret with a 30mm chain-type anti-tank gun and 4 external hardpoints that can hold 8 anti-tank missiles and tools. 19 Install a rocket launcher."
"They also want to win the order for heavy transport helicopters from Tianzhu, and they hope we can give in."
AVIC does not have the ability to integrate the entire industry chain like Daystar Technology.
There is no need for Daystar Technology to produce everything in-house.
"Boeing has many other products besides the CH-47, but we are mainly in the helicopter business."
Otherwise, I will always feel uneasy in my heart.
After all, many new materials and new processes require special investment in production lines.
"A new type of armed helicopter will be developed on the basis of this helicopter, which will greatly save time in all aspects."
If something like this happened to AVIC, it would be completely unimaginable, and it could even be said to be a major leak.
The production of various parts of the fuselage is considered to be a relatively large workload among the entire helicopter parts.
"The aircraft is also equipped with a target interception display system and night vision equipment, which can search, identify and attack targets under complex weather conditions."
"Mr. Zhao, I heard that the relevant departments intend to reduce the number of WZ-10s in preparation and wait for the new model of armed helicopters from Venus Technology to be put into service."
Although Venus Technology had previously thought about integrating some Apache functions on the basis of Black Hawk.
"Ivanchuk, I heard that Boeing is promoting some special arms sales and wants to use these arms sales to increase pressure on China."
Due to Venus Technology, David has paid a lot more attention to China in recent years.
He felt that as long as he communicated well with Cao Yang and Zhao Siyu, the other parties would still consider cooperation.
"Then we will provide some advanced military products to the countries around China so that they will be overwhelmed."
At this time, there may not be much reaction on the Chinese Internet. After all, if a professional thing like an armed helicopter is not properly promoted, no one will realize how awesome it is.
Now the CH-53 has been produced by Daystar Technology as a similar product, which has basically abolished Sikorsky's export business of similar products.
Zhao Tianling thinks this makes sense.
However, he felt that although AVIC could not produce the entire aircraft, it could still produce some parts.
"I think it is not necessary for Daystar Technology to produce all the parts of the helicopter. Can some of the parts be produced by us?"
The cooperation between AVIC and Daystar Technology is relatively close. Wan Jinniu knew that there would be no way to prevent Daystar Technology from entering the field of professional armed helicopters.
"Muilenberg, Daystar Technology's Kunpeng heavy transport helicopter has suppressed the sales of our CH-47 in the international market."
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"Why is it suddenly copying Boeing's Apache again?"
"Can we also participate in it and see if we can increase the sales of Black Hawk."
Although what Zhao Tianling said was unpleasant, Wan Jinniu knew that it might be the truth.
"But many parts of the Apache are produced in cooperation with various companies."
As long as Boeing pushes it casually, whether it is selling some military products produced by Boeing itself or products produced by Lockheed Martin and other companies, it can make China very uncomfortable.
How does this speed compare?
"Boeing's Apache was originally developed by several companies including Hughes and Bell. Later, Hughes was acquired by McDonnell Douglas, and McDonnell Douglas was absorbed by Boeing, eventually becoming a Boeing product."
In this case, there is naturally a relatively large gap in combat effectiveness.
"First of all, the Black Hawk helicopter is more commonly known as a multi-purpose armed helicopter. Although the Black Hawk helicopter can also use Minigun, Hellfire, and 70mm rocket launcher equipment, it does not have a head-up display. This means that the Black Hawk helicopter does not have the ability to mount combat missiles, and the Black Hawk helicopter does not have the big mushroom above the rotor of the attack helicopter, and its perspective on unknown battlefields and airspace is not as good as the Apache.”
Many people have never been to China in their lives, but only received some news about China from who knows how many years ago on the Internet.
Even if the sales price is lower by then, it is still worth looking forward to.
"Most of the various components such as engines, fuselages, and flight control systems are not produced by Boeing itself."
"But Apache is also their pursuit, a weapon that directly participates in combat on the battlefield."
After all, the take-off weight is just a few tons different, and the number of weapons carried is less than 30% of the Apache.
"I admit that Daystar Technology is very strong and every product in the past has been excellent."
But if technology is not as good as people, then it is not as good as people. No matter what niche you say you are great in, it will definitely not be enough.
Boeing responded quickly to Venustech's official announcement of entering the armed helicopter market, and Sikorsky was not slow either.
"However, in order to minimize production costs, all parts are considered to be shared as much as possible."
With the introduction of PPT page by page, Cao Yang has a more intuitive understanding of the difference between the two products.
"So for the relevant departments, Black Hawk is a very good product with corresponding usage needs."
This is also the first professional armed helicopter in Asia.
Otherwise, he would not have specially arranged this report.
"After all, Venustech's professional armed helicopters have just started to be developed."
"Now they are developing similar products for our Apache armed helicopters, which will make our Apache unsellable internationally."
If they don't actively participate, they may not even get a sip of soup at that time.
It's just that the various measures before didn't work very well, and he felt that he needed to change.
There is really no way to compare technology with Venustech.
Zhao Siyu carefully explained the difference between the two to Cao Yang.
However, the move by Venustech has made Aerospace Technology feel uncomfortable.
"And from the appearance, it can be seen that the Apache does not need to consider the capacity, so the front area and resistance are obviously lower than the Black Hawk with a thicker cabin."
"But how can we give in to such a large order?"
Venustech is completely going against Boeing.
Whether it is the previous development of the Eagle heavy transport helicopter or the Venus 777 currently under development, they were officially announced when the product was just established.
Ivanchuk frowned and was very worried about the future.
"I also find it strange, but I think even if the other party has problems in the process of copying the Black Hawk, it is estimated that they will not give up easily."
AVIC is not unaware of this situation, so there is a larger model of the Z-20.
This kind of contempt can be said to be full of many military enterprises in the United States.
"Did something go wrong in the process of copying our Black Hawk?"
"I just hope they don't succeed so quickly."
"Venus Technology wants to produce all kinds of products, and the threat to us will become greater and greater in the future."
"Plus, they already have experience in developing Kunpeng and Xiongying heavy transport helicopters. We can't handle the Apache, but they may really handle it very quickly."
"In this case, it is almost inevitable that the relevant departments will reduce the number of equipment for the Z-10."
When Venus Technology has four helicopters on the market, it can greatly enhance its influence in the helicopter field.
Apache has always been considered the world's number one armed helicopter, with no rivals.
Although for China, the successful development of the Z-10 is also a very remarkable achievement.
David is definitely in a very bad mood now.
Because the situation seems to be a little wrong.
Although Boeing has many products, it can't stand several models being scrapped every year.
Wan Jinniu came to Zhao Tianling's office with an unhappy face, wanting to discuss countermeasures.
He has always been very active in suppressing China and Venus Technology.
But for so many years, AVIC has not produced products of the same level.
There are many common fuselage materials, which greatly reduces the difficulty of all aspects.
"Don't they always want to develop military strength?"
Even if they see some new changes, everyone will ignore them.
Although it is developed in accordance with the Apache, the other party is a product from decades ago after all, and there is definitely room for improvement in some things.
In the capital market, Sikorsky's valuation can be said to have dropped significantly.
"They must have realized that the Black Hawk has many shortcomings in dealing with tanks."
Stephens immediately understood what Ivanchuk said.
So he quickly convinced himself to adjust his mentality.
"Unless there is an accident in the middle of the Venus Technology."
He certainly hopes to win as many helicopter orders as possible for AVIC.
"Next, I plan to change my mindset and push the Pentagon to take some other actions to stimulate China."
Even the competitiveness in terms of cost is relatively limited.
Let alone the Apache, even compared with a multi-functional aircraft like the Black Hawk, the Wuzhi-10 has no advantage.
"Let's find some time to go to Venusstar Technology to exchange ideas and see how the H-20 is progressing."
"Especially since China is also carrying out some team reforms, the demand for armed helicopters has become stronger after the reorganization of the Army Aviation."
"Secondly, there are also big differences in the design of the cabins of the Black Hawk and Apache. The cabin of the Black Hawk helicopter is a typical bread-shaped cabin, and is equipped with sliding doors to facilitate special operations soldiers to board the aircraft. The cabin of the Black Hawk is divided into two parts, the driving part and the transport part, so the cabin of the Black Hawk helicopter is very much like a van."
It is no secret within the system that the relevant departments have approached Venusstar Technology to develop armed helicopters.
Some technology that you have been unable to master for several years may be broken through in one month.
"How about we take the order from Tianzhu first, and then discuss the export of arms to countries around China?"
"Stephens, didn't Venustech want to copy our Black Hawk before?"
The maximum take-off weight of the Black Hawk and Apache helicopters is 10 tons, and the weight of the helicopters themselves is about 4 tons.
It's just that this change is a bit big, and many people can't accept it, or don't want to accept it.
As Sikorsky's flagship product, CH-53 naturally does not want to give way to Boeing's CH-47.
After all, it's almost completed, and it would be a pity to give up directly.
"Although they are just starting to study professional armed helicopters, they will be able to take out the prototype next year, and they will be able to equip relevant departments on a large scale the year after."
Many things such as engines and flight control systems can be considered for sharing, or extended after appropriate modifications.
"Apache was designed to pursue lateral and longitudinal mobility as much as possible, and the multi-angle nose design and the coverless armor box design make Apache have a very good bulletproof appearance and more cushioning and survival probability when falling."
Internationally, the competitiveness of AVIC helicopters is not very strong.
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Compared with heavy transport helicopters, the market demand for medium-sized helicopters such as Black Hawk and Apache should be greater.
But the arm cannot twist the thigh, and this ending is definitely unchangeable.
The purpose is to disgust China.
Zhao Siyu opened the PPT and prepared to introduce the relevant situation.
"In addition, the performance positioning of Apache and Black Hawk is actually very different."
As a private enterprise, Venusstar Technology has a very different working style from AVIC and Aerospace Science and Technology.
"Unless the funds are greatly increased, even if some new products are developed, they will not be able to equip them in large quantities."
After the Olympics, this situation slowly changed.
In Muilenburg's view, China's military enterprises have developed by various plagiarisms.
At the same time, it also reported that the relevant departments have a demand for both Black Hawk and Apache products.
When it comes to publicity, it can also be said that AVIC is deeply involved in this armed helicopter, which is much more impressive.
Zhao Tianling thinks that AVIC can completely purchase raw materials from companies such as Nanshan Carbon Fiber, and then process them into corresponding fuselage parts and supply them to Venusstar Technology for use.
Muilenburg is definitely not a good man.
But Boeing, which has been paying attention to the movements of Venusstar Technology, is going to explode.
Before, I always thought that the Black Hawk in the movie "Black Hawk Down" was the helicopter with the best comprehensive performance, so I thought about developing similar products based on it.
This is very unfavorable for future development.
In the past two years, he has spent a lot of time to understand China and Venusstar Technology.
No one can get away from money.
Stephens also thinks they can participate in it.
In this way, Sikorsky's two major businesses were ruined.
On the basis of the Black Hawk helicopter under development, continue to develop a helicopter similar to the Apache. Zhao Siyu thinks that the development time can be greatly compressed.
"Didn't they develop a medium-sized helicopter to compete with Sikorsky's Black Hawk helicopter?"
The biggest problem with this part is the development and supply of raw materials. As long as these problems are solved, the difficulty of production will be greatly reduced.
Stephens obviously wants to pocket all the benefits.
In fact, it may not be realized in the end.
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