Rebirth of Military Workers
Chapter 1190
"Minister Hong, the tanks our troops need at the moment should be tanks that can attack in motion, not the backward tanks that need to stop before they can target the target and fire..." Zheng Yucheng said solemnly.
Hong Aiguo looked at him, "Don't you agree to let 617 use the 201 stabilizing fire control system?"
Xie Kai really didn't know this happened.
Actually Zheng Yucheng and the others did not provide the 617 with an image stabilizing fire control system.
"They have introduced an advanced fire control system, don't they? The British 37-type fire control system is said to be very advanced. It's not good for 201, and it's not mature yet..." Zheng Yucheng said with a smile.
Hong Aiguo has nothing to do with him at all.
"Chief, as the battlefield situation changes, modern tanks have higher requirements for fire control systems... This also requires tanks to have a stronger integrated combat capability. These mobility cannot be demonstrated by simple tests... "Xie Kai didn't care to ask about the contradiction between 404 and 617. He had to persuade Hong Aiguo, and then discuss new plans with Long Yaohua and the people of 617. "We are researching new equipment to improve our national defense capabilities. It’s the same as the army replacing advanced equipment to enhance its national defense strength..."
"That's right. You have 20 million tanks. Even if you win, how much do you think the troops can afford?" Hong Aiguo asked Xie Kai.
In a word, let Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng both know why the Armored Forces knows whose tank performance is better, and they have to hold such a competition.
"In this case, what are we going to participate in? Let them play tomorrow, we won't participate." Zheng Yucheng immediately got angry.
Obviously, the military has already set the 88 style, so it is not willing to let 359 win.
Xie Kai didn't expect such a result.
There should be some leaders who have taken a fancy to the performance of the 359 tank and sold them in large quantities, but there are none in China. No one is comfortable thinking about it.
And this price is too ridiculous.
If the 88 can prove that it has better performance than the 359 tank, and the price is cheaper, naturally no one will object to it when equipped.
"The cost of the 359 tank can be reduced." Xie Kai said calmly, "The export top configuration, if you modify it, you can submit it directly."
"Exported ones are not good for national defense..." Hong Aiguo shook his head. "Your proposal to reduce costs must be a reduction in allocation. If you haven't seen these tanks before, there is no such problem. If you see, you can provide some less advanced ones. Do you think it fits?"
Xie Kai was speechless.
Except for the tonnage and unresearched technology, the 359 tanks that are exported to domestic sales are all top-notch configurations in this era.
In countries with strong economies such as the Soviet Union and the United States, the cost is not high.
But in China, this is too high to be acceptable.
It consumes a fraction of military expenditure in a year. How can it be accepted?
"It's not good in performance, is that what you said, right?" Seeing Xie Kai's silence, Hong Aiguo asked while looking at him.
Xie Kai nodded.
"The 359 tank is indeed too expensive. And the performance advantage is not too obvious... Once the troops are deployed, the funding requirements of the armored units will affect the funding allocation of all other arms. It takes 800 million to equip a battalion. Do you think we are now? Can one battalion be equipped a year?" Hong Aiguo asked Xie Kai.
Xie Kai shook his head.
There are only more than 20 billion yuan a year, and it is impossible to equip a battalion with 800 million yuan.
If it is said that 800 million is used to refurbish a brigade, even though it is painful, the military high-level will still consider it.
"What if it only costs 400 million without reducing the allocation?" Xie Kai gritted his teeth and asked, "Performance is linked to price."
"Are you crazy? Cut it by half? Let's lose half of the price ourselves?" Zheng Yucheng was unhappy.
He heard it from beginning to end.
"Director Zheng, what's your opinion?" Hong Aiguo looked at Zheng Yucheng.(Read more @ hotmtlnovel.xyz)
Zheng Yucheng was about to object, but Xie Kai pulled the corner of his clothes. Seeing Xie Kai winking, he could only endure the anger and nod his head without speaking dullly.
"The original tank battalion of the Special Operations Brigade only needed 200 million..."
"Chief, the price of goods has been rising in recent years with economic development. Although some of the costs of the 359 tank have been reduced due to the expansion of the production scale, it is used by domestic troops. For national defense and security, all the technologies are top-notch, only armor. Defense, the top armor thickness exported can reach an average armor thickness of 580mm, but for domestic use, it is at least 700mm..." Xie Kai said calmly.
Although the data has not improved much, this is already a defense that no anti-tank missile can break through in the world.
The defense of the Type 99 tank is just like this.
Rare earth elements are added to special alloys to increase strength. This is a technology developed in the 1990s, and Xie Kai used it in this era.
Even when it comes to the design of composite armor, Xie Kai talks about the solutions that he saw decades later, whether they can be used or not. Otherwise, Zhang Deming has the idea and it is impossible to get the cost of the 359 tank to 6 million in this era.
"You leave the plan, and I will discuss it with 617 and the people from the General Logistics Department." Hong Aiguo did not answer directly.
The specific performance can not be determined by the mouth.
"Are you crazy? Now we are short of money and give half of the subsidy to the troops? The more production, the greater the loss!" Zheng Yucheng roared as soon as he came out. "We can't affect the development of other projects just for the troops to be equipped with such tanks!"
If there is not such a project, and it is not a case of lack of money, do not profit or even lose money to provide equipment to the troops, Zheng Yucheng has no opinion.
For the equipment and other consumption of the special operations brigade, the 404 base, the logistics supply unit, almost loses hundreds of millions of dollars every year, and no one has any opinion on it.
No matter how much money is in 404, it belongs to the state.
No matter how advanced the weapons and equipment developed, they are also prepared for national defense.
"Go back and explain." Xie Kai didn't explain now.
Now I have explained it to Zheng Yucheng, and I will definitely have to explain it to Wang Guilin and others when I go back later.
In the beginning, Xie Kai was most opposed to the 359 tanks sold domestically with a cost price of 20 million yuan. At this time, the price will be reduced and provided to the army.
"I know what everyone thinks. It seems that the more we produce, the more losses we lose. Have you realized that if this tank cannot be put on the market and there are no users, how can our costs be reduced?" Xie Kai returned to the base to lead After we stayed, Wang Guilin and others have been waiting for his explanation.
No one answered his words.
If the loss is too serious, it will be detrimental to the development of 404.
"We build equipment for the purpose of enhancing national defense capabilities. This is the lifelong goal of every national defense science and technology worker. Under such circumstances, the most advanced tanks we have developed are too expensive to provide to the troops... The army cannot be used. How do we proceed with our next research and development work? Under the current circumstances, only production can promote the cost reduction and performance improvement of all related technologies." Xie Kai gave his own explanation.
If the price is too high, the troops cannot afford to equip them; if the troops cannot afford to equip them, there will be no orders or production, and the cost will never be reduced.
It seems to be the result of a contradiction. To resolve it, it must be changed.
Either the troops give a higher price or they bear the loss.
Reduction?
The military will definitely not agree.
"That's right. The current price has indeed caused these consequences. A tank lost 10 million yuan. We can't afford this result." Wang Guilin shook his head directly.
Xie Kai did not refute Wang Guilin's words, but asked Zhang Deming: "The total cost of the chapter is to be reduced to 10 million. How much do we need to produce?"
"If you don't count the cost of technology development, and produce about 200 vehicles, the cost can be reduced to less than 10 million." Zhang Deming had already considered this.
"What if you reduce the defense power and reduce some of the performance of the fire control system?" Xie Kai asked, "You don't need full hydraulic technology."
"Didn't they disagree with the allocation reduction?" Zheng Yucheng asked.
"If you don't agree with the reduction, the cost will not come down." Zhang Deming shook his head, "The current cost is mainly that all the technologies are brand new, from the materials used in tank armor to the production process, to the various internal electronic systems. All are produced under laboratory conditions."
"After the allocation reduction, how much can the cost be compressed?" Xie Kai continued to ask.
"The performance is reduced to 90% of the current price, and the price can be reduced to about 7.5 million. Many of the technologies on the exported 359 tanks are off-the-shelf." Zhang Deming said.
To a certain extent, even if the technology is not improved by 1%, the cost is doubled.
The technical development of 404 has basically reached a bottleneck.
"What about the quantity?" Wang Guilin asked.
If it is the cost of 7.5 million cars, it is still acceptable.
Going to the back, the production cost will be reduced as the technology improves and the production scale increases to share the cost.
"100 cars will do."
"At present, it is very difficult for the army to give a price of 10 million vehicles." Xie Kai said, "Most of the domestic equipment are 59 and 69 old tanks, even the 79 type equipment is not much. Even now it has slowed down the production schedule."
"It is impossible to give this price." Zheng Yucheng shook his head.
"We won't know until tomorrow's game." Xie Kai also didn't know if the troops could offer such a price.
It is not appropriate to use advanced tanks for combat tests to detect the future development direction of troops.
A small amount of equipment to ensure the research and development capabilities of the tank should not be a big problem.
In another meeting room of the Proving Ground Headquarters, Long Yaohua, Li Mingshan, Hong Aiguo, and several leaders of 617 also had a critical time for discussion.
"Chief, we have no opinion on such a plan, but the operators are not familiar with the rules. Isn't that inappropriate?" Zhao Yuming originally disagreed.
The big guys in front of him all agreed, which made him listen.
“It’s not much different from the usual testing and training, except that the whole process is moving. Snake turns, shallows, hills, cliffs and other terrains are obstacles encountered in normal training. In the process of passing these obstacles Shooting in the middle, whether it is stopping or firing while moving, has no effect..." Hong Aiguo said.
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