Soviet Union 1991

Text Chapter 264 Interview with British Broadcasting Corporation

The second update

Yanayev went to London with Soviet Foreign Minister Shevardnadze, in order to let the West know more about the Soviet Union, change the bad image that the government had promoted for decades in their minds, and show the original veil of the Soviet Union to the West. Tell them that we are now a friendly and kind country, not the dictatorial empire under the surveillance of KGB agents at any time.

The young and energetic Foreign Minister Shevardnadze on the screen immediately attracted the attention of all the audience. Compared with the previous Foreign Minister with the same surname Shevardnadze, this image is obviously more in line with the temperament. At least compared with the old man-politics who is in a state of decline, Shevardnadze is a beautiful landscape.

The same reason why Yanaev chose him is his sharp performance. At least when this young man is present, Yanaev feels that he can rest assured that he can do things. After all, the Soviet Union is not in the most dangerous moment in 1991, and Yanayev does not need to go out and show his face and argue with Western hosts on TV. Whether it is American or British reporters, these people have a problem, that is, they like to talk about things in terms of ideology.

Just when Shevardnadze just sat in the live broadcast room, the British Broadcasting Corporation host Marvin began to plan his offensive. After Shevardnadze finished introducing himself in front of the TV, Marvin began to focus on the Soviet Foreign Minister.

"Hello, Minister Shevardnadze, I'm glad you came to our show. It is well known that the West had ideological hostility towards socialist countries during the Cold War, but I think many people have very curious questions about the Soviet Union, so I hope Minister Shevardnadze can answer them one by one for us."

"Of course." Facing the lights and cameras, Shevardnadze put on a smiling and friendly expression. He changed his posture and tried to make himself sit more comfortably. He made full preparations for this interview, the purpose of which was to let the other party bite the other party when trying to blacken the Soviet Union.

Sure enough, host Marvin did not disappoint Shevardnadze. The first question was about his views on the United States.

"US President Mario gave a speech today, specifically talking about the United States continuing to be the world leader. It will be about a hundred years. The Soviet Union and other socialist countries will also be bourgeoisified. What does Minister Shevardnadze think of this?"

"I don't know what the US thinks of world leaders. If they are creating regional wars and conflicts and plundering local economies and resources, I hope such world leaders can get out of here sooner. There is a saying. Some people always like to demand others by the standards of Jesus and demand themselves by the standards of animals. Of course, this saying is also completely correct at the national level. The Soviet Union never believed that a big country that persecuted other countries' regimes was a qualified world leader. Let alone a century, it is not wrong to survive for ten years."

Marvin was a little stunned. He didn't expect Shevardnadze to answer so straightforwardly. It was obviously as if he had planned it for a long time. If his questions were not random, Marvin really thought that his director had colluded with Soviet officials.

"The Soviet Union mentioned that the United States is the creator of world troubles. I don't quite agree with this view. The United States has also made indelible contributions to world peace..."

"Yes, it has indeed contributed to world peace." Shevardnadze said sarcastically, "As long as the US president is kind enough to do nothing, then the US president will have a chance to win the Nobel Peace Prize, right?"

Marvin found that he was no match for this politician in discussing the United States, so he had to change the topic and open a breakthrough in the issue of ideology.

"I heard that the Soviet Union is now carrying out market-oriented reforms and allowing the circulation of capital and finance. Does this mean that you have given up the socialist system you insist on and turned to the embrace of capitalism? Or has the Soviet Union actually admitted in disguise that socialism has failed, but you just don't say it."

The host Marvin asked this question a little tricky. He specifically brought up the issue of ideology and political system, just to make the other party admit that what he originally insisted on was just a wrong choice. Shevardnadze raised his head and glanced at the British Broadcasting and Television host sitting opposite him, who was a little complacent. At this time, his smile was still full of wonderful sarcasm. The studio lights shone on his face, making his expression a little distorted.

At the same time, he looked around, and everyone else focused their attention on him because of this question. Shevardnadze shook his head, somewhat mocking the self-righteous stupidity of these people. He stared into the eyes of the host Marvin. He asked word by word, "If you say so, then I want to ask when Roosevelt implemented his new economic policy. Did he also declare to the world that capitalism has failed? You know, he was criticized as a traitor to communism because of this policy at the time."

"But Roosevelt's policy not only did not fail, but also led the US economy out of trouble and towards take-off. The so-called market is just a means, not the most critical determinant. So when host Marvin saw Roosevelt's economic policy, would he still think that our implementation of market-oriented reforms is a denial of our own system?"

Shevardnadze's spoken English pronunciation is fluent and even has a hint of Cockney accent. He was like the strongest king in control of the situation. To Shevardnadze, all the slanders, frame-ups and ridicules were nothing more than painless scratching.

"Then you are violating the ideals of Lenin and Stalin by cooperating with capitalists like us who you once hated so much? They devoted their lives to eliminating so-called capitalist exploitation and eliminating polarization. But now you are creating a group of capitalists?"

Marvin did not stop attacking. Each of his questions became more acute. He just wanted to know which question Shevardnadze would be speechless on. After all, the British radio and television presenter has caused the most headaches for British government officials.

"Sorry, host, if you think you can find a breakthrough in the Soviet political system on this issue, it will be in vain. After all, your question is relatively naive. I don't know how much higher the American Wallace is than you. However, We still talk and laugh with him.”

"Our ultimate goal is to achieve common prosperity through capital and market means. Eliminating exploitation and eliminating extreme polarization is Moscow's loyal will. We and the London Stock Exchange took away the business elites, oh no, we should There is an essential difference between being a vampire and how we treat people, whether we treat them as harvest lambs or as masters of the government. This can be regarded as some life experience from an elder. "

Marvin's face looked a little embarrassed. He didn't expect that while he was mocking the other party, he was also counter-attacked by the elegant man opposite him. Mance's coherent tone and the smile on his lips gave him the illusion that the person sitting opposite him was not from a totalitarian country, but an authentic British gentleman.

"However, the human rights situation in the Soviet Union is very bad. According to the United States' Human Rights White Paper, the KGB's abuse of rights against ordinary citizens still exists. I wonder how Minister Shevardnadze explains this problem?" Marvin gritted his teeth and made a final struggle. , Human rights have always been the most sensitive issue in the Soviet Union. From the Great Purge to the Kazan Mental Hospital, from the Gulag concentration camps to the persecution of intellectuals, human rights have always been a topic criticized by the West.

"I think the Americans' human rights white paper must not have been updated for a long time, or they have been relying on their imagination to speculate on human rights issues in the Soviet Union. It can be said that the human rights situation in the Soviet Union is even much better than that in the United States. At least the United States still discriminates against people of color every day Race and suppression of riots. Didn’t you see that they had a large-scale suppression of riots last year?

"The British police used the principle of reasonable suspicion to stop and search ethnic minorities. It was also because of this system that eventually led to the outbreak of the Rodwater Farm riot. Is the human rights situation in the UK also very bad? Shevardnadze asked with a smile. There was no aggressive tone, but the confrontation between the words made Marvin somewhat powerless. (To be continued.)

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