Tech Hammer
Chapter 207 There are always serious people who like to play self-destruction
For the lawyer profession, many times they are similar to the reporter profession, that is, they are really not afraid that someone will want to cause trouble, and they even want to make the matter as big as possible. After all, this is what lawyers make. If Everyone would just accept the situation and the lawyer's business would be gone.
It’s just that Ning Wei’s identity is quite special this time. Yan Ming’s tone was cautious on the phone and he repeatedly told him that he must help Ning Wei handle the matter beautifully. This conveyed a very important message. Ning Wei belongs to the kind of people like Huawei. He is a young scientist who is highly valued by large multinational technology companies. Looking at the clearly organized evidence that Ning Wei passed to him, it is obvious that there is a team helping him deal with this kind of thing, which is enough to illustrate Ning Wei's energy.
However, this is the type of case where the facts are clear but the most difficult to handle. According to Ning Wei's request, it is almost impossible to handle it as soon as possible and get a result. It is not that the facts are not clear, but it will be very troublesome to follow legal procedures.
So after roughly scanning the screenshots on the Internet, Chen Guoben dialed Ning Wei's number again, intending to tell the truth.
When the call was connected, Chen Guoben said politely: "Hey, Mr. Ning, I have roughly read through the evidence you just sent. I need to communicate with you about these cases. Do you have time now?"
"Oh, you said, I have spared all my time today to prepare to deal with this matter."
Chen Guoben thought for a while and then said: "In fact, Mr. Ning, it takes about one day to deal with this kind of matter. According to Chinese laws, if you want to directly prosecute these people through formal legal procedures, you must first obtain their personal information." Real identity, permanent address, phone number and other information, but it is very troublesome to obtain this information. Because without the cooperation of the public security organs, the platform cannot take the initiative to give us all the information of these people. "
"And as you know, even if the speeches of these people are defamation, they are also criminal private prosecution cases. And I have seen the speeches on the Internet screenshots. It is very difficult to file a case. Most of them are not conclusive. Therefore, unless these speeches have really caused great and extremely bad social impact, it is difficult to file a case. That is to say, if you really want to sue them, the first step is to obtain their true identity information.”
"Without filing a case, if you want to get the real identity information of these people, you usually need to directly sue the companies affiliated to these platforms and obtain this information through court judgments. After all, from the perspective of the platform, if User registration information can be retrieved by simply sending a lawyer’s letter. If word spreads, it will also be a blow to the platform’s image in the minds of market users.”
"So based on my past experience in this kind of case, there are two steps. First, we need to sue the platforms involved in publishing false news and require them to provide the information of these users. For those platforms, the time is often delayed until the court hearing. At this time, we are taking the route of reconciliation and are willing to provide these user information. Even if we directly prosecute this kind of case after the holidays, it will probably be scheduled to be five months or even half a year later. This is only the first step."
"We get the information of these users, and then we have to sue these people again. This is another process. We have to wait for the court to file the case and notify. I estimate that it will take one or two years at the fastest to sue these people. , or even longer. More importantly, based on the current evidence, it is difficult to say that they can really receive the punishment they deserve. In other words, you may have spent a lot of money and time, and the final result is not that disappointing. If you are satisfied, many people will directly issue an apology, so you really need to think carefully about this matter."
Chen Guoben was sincere. If it were another client, he wouldn't bother to speak so clearly, and just pay the attorney fees.
This kind of case is very troublesome for the parties involved, but it is a good case for the lawyer who takes it because the facts of the case are very clear, but the process is more troublesome. As long as the evidence is fixed and all the work is done well in the early stage, it can still be taken on at other times. For other complex cases, there will be no conflicts.
Moreover, according to Chen Guoben's understanding, the parties involved in such cases generally just want to get away with it at first. When they find out that it is so troublesome to prosecute those who hide behind the Internet, most of them choose to withdraw the lawsuit after a few months. , after all, who among ordinary people has the energy to spend several years just because of a few rubbish words on the Internet?
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After listening to Chen Guoben's words, Ning Wei felt a little bored. The case that Jiang University Law School dealt with Xiao Xianrou's agent made him think more simply about safeguarding his rights through legal channels.
However, after listening to lawyer Chen's words, Ning Wei roughly understood the difference between the two cases. The main reason is that Xiao Xianrou is a public figure. It is too simple to know the identity information of him and his agent. It is everywhere on the Internet.
But these ordinary Internet Vs are different. These people rarely take the initiative to publish their true identities, home addresses and phone numbers on the Internet. But thinking of this, Ning Wei had no doubts and said, "Then how did you deal with this kind of thing before?"
The other person quickly gave the answer: "Send a lawyer's letter first. It would be ideal if the other party takes the initiative and deletes the untrue remarks and apologizes. If some people ignore the lawyer's letter, then go through the litigation process. I have been a lawyer for so many years, We have encountered several cases where these Internet celebrities took the initiative to provoke and reveal their true identities after receiving letters from lawyers, which greatly delayed the litigation time. However, such cases are very rare and can almost be ignored. And even so, in the end, The results may not necessarily satisfy the parties involved.”
"Another way is to directly publish tangible evidence to make these slanderous facts self-defeating. Because since you have decided to sue, I believe it is enough to prove that the things they accused on the Internet have not happened. So from protecting the reputation of the parties involved From a different perspective, this is indeed a method. It’s just that it’s very annoying.”
After hearing this answer, Ning Wei felt even more unhappy and asked: "So this is really like in the movie Let the Bullets Fly. Someone falsely accused me on the Internet of eating two bowls of noodles, so I have to eat it." The dissection proves that I only ate one bowl, and they could leave without even looking at me? Is that what it means? I can even keep those imaginary Weibo posts, proudly showing off that I once forced someone to dissect myself abdomen?"
The person on the other side was a little confused and said: "This..."
Ning Wei also realized that he seemed to be complaining to the wrong person. As a lawyer, Chen Guoben could have told himself these words. Instead of patting his chest and ensuring that this matter would be handled properly for him, he could directly discuss the lawyer's fees. He was responsible for him, so he said: "Lawyer Chen, I understand how difficult this matter is. But I am still prepared to fight this lawsuit. You can help me prepare first. As for the identity of those hiding behind the platform, , I will handle it. If you should report the case for me, just report it. If the social influence of this matter is not large enough and it needs to make a bigger fuss before filing a case, you don’t have to worry. I am familiar with this kind of thing! Big things can be turned into small troubles. Isn't it easy to turn a small matter into a big deal? As for the lawyer's letter, forget it, just to scare people. If we want to play, let's play it real. You can directly bid for the lawyer's fees."
"Mr. Ning, do you want to prosecute everyone in the evidence?"
"Yes! Everyone must be prosecuted. We must do it neatly, no one is missing!" Ning Wei replied firmly.
"Okay, no problem. The lawyer's fees are reasonable. Mr. Yan will introduce you and they will definitely give you the best price. However, when obtaining the identities of the people behind the platform, it is best to obtain them through formal channels, otherwise you will accidentally violate the law. The crime of illegally obtaining citizens' personal information will also be a very troublesome matter. Of course, no matter what method you use to obtain the identity of the other party, please be sure to tell me the truth in accordance with the regulations." Chen Guoben emphasized the word truthfulness. , so that Ning Wei can hear a different meaning.
Of course, theoretically speaking, these remarks do not violate the professional standards of lawyers at all.
"Don't worry, Lawyer Chen, I don't have much time to deal with this matter. If you need a power of attorney or something, I'll prepare it for you later. You don't have to worry about other things. I will handle this matter within the scope of law and regulations. "
"Okay, that's it! I will immediately set up a special team to handle this case for you. We will communicate at any time when we need your assistance." Chen Guoben said.
"Well, then I'll trouble Lawyer Chen."
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After hanging up the phone, Ning Wei's eyes fell on March, who was still working hard.
Yes, the manuscripts that need to be reviewed still need to be reviewed. Since you need to rely on reviewing manuscripts to demonstrate solid basic mathematical skills, you can't miss it. Of course, apart from that, March is capable of doing other things.
If according to what Lawyer Chen said, he would have to wait one or two years for the outcome of this matter to be resolved, which is unacceptable to Ning Wei. Fortunately, he is not considered an ordinary person now.
Especially in March.
Even though March doesn't look very smart now, if he were allowed to collect information on the Internet, he would definitely be a good hand. For example, he just collected evidence on the Internet, which even professional lawyers would admire.
"March, it's time to show off your ability. Now you can find all the traces left by this guy named Hokage Daquan on the Internet. Isn't that a big problem?" Ning Wei assigned a task to March.
This popular science V named "Naruto Disaster" on Weibo is the guy who questioned Ning Wei on Weibo about using the scientific research funds of top-notch youths to spend money with his girlfriend. The Weibo post he posted has been forwarded more than 2,000 times, with more than 500 comments and more than 10,000 likes.
There is even a faint tendency to become a hot search. After all, the name Ningwei is now a hot search.
What probably made Ning Wei feel most unhappy was that when he posted the response on Weibo, this guy actually directly updated and commented on Ning Wei's Weibo: "If some people really have no problem, who will be afraid of the public?" What about your doubts?"
Ning Wei is not sure whether this big V on Weibo is just because he feels uncomfortable or wants to gain popularity. However, now that everyone is at odds with each other, Ning Wei is ready to go all out. Anyone who makes him unhappy in the past two days, he will also Don't mind flipping the table. Not enough social impact? Then let's have a greater impact on society, since some people want him to cut open his stomach to prove that he only ate a bowl of noodles! Then he would gouge his belly once, but after he had done so, no one would want to leave in a hurry.
Various screenshots began to flash on the computer screen. For March, tracing the source of all kinds of information on the Internet is what it is best at, which is even better than reviewing manuscripts.
Not only does it search for information about this Weibo name, March can also automatically analyze the people followed by this Weibo account, the people who often appear in the comment area, the places mentioned in every Weibo post, photos taken by oneself with a mobile phone, etc. Wait for tracking, then automatically compare and classify all the information, then find other accounts, and finally analyze a result.
Of course, this still takes a lot of time, so after giving the order to March, Ning Wei did not continue to wait, but simply logged into Weibo. Is the social impact not big enough? Not hot enough to file a case? Then let’s have a greater social impact. This time he directly @a circle of official accounts, including a series of relevant departments such as Huaxia Technology, Education, Taxation, Securities Regulatory Commission, etc., and then began to edit the text, "I would rather report that I may be suspected of misappropriating scientific research funds." , may be suspected of using his own influence to buy and sell stocks for profit, may be involved in various issues with unknown sources of funds, may be suspected of academic misconduct, etc. We implore you to be investigated and the investigation report made public!”
After posting on Weibo, Ning Wei glanced at March. He was not afraid of checking in March. The only problem was that March could not be discovered yet.
But this is a very easy problem to deal with. Not to mention that Ningwei had taken every step in a down-to-earth manner and could get results from any investigation. It was impossible for him to develop into a situation where a bunch of people came to his study to collect evidence. Even if it did come, there would be no problem. big.
This cat is so camouflaged. As long as it doesn't want to be discovered by others, you won't notice its existence even if you operate it directly on the workstation. All usage traces left on the computer in March can be explained by the corresponding script program. Ning Wei's label is not just a mathematician, but he is also a world-renowned computer scientist.
As for whether it's worth it, that's a matter of opinion.
At least in Ning Wei's opinion, it's worth it. First of all, the most important thing is to make himself feel better. Secondly, he wants to solve some problems once and for all. For example, whoever wants to take advantage of his popularity in the future or whoever wants to say something weird must think about it first. Is it worth provoking a scientist who likes to self-destruct when he has nothing to do? If once is not enough, he doesn't mind self-destructing again. Anyway, he will get used to it after exploding.
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