Three Kingdoms

Chapter 3486 A Different Choice

Zhao Yun was a little surprised.

He didn't expect Liu Ye to say these things...

Everyone looks at things from different angles. If Liu Ye spoke completely from the standpoint of Shandong, Zhao Yun would naturally not want to listen, but Liu Ye's narration was very objective and practical, which forced Zhao Yun to think.

Because he is Zhao Yun.

If it were an ordinary general, Liu Ye would understand what he said, but if he couldn't figure it out after thinking for a while, he would naturally give up.

Zhao Yun likes to think, likes to learn, and is good at summarizing. When a problem is put in front of him, Zhao Yun's choice is to try to think and find answers first, instead of avoiding or shelving it directly.

Liu Ye looked at Zhao Yun's expression and smiled slightly.

The remarks he prepared all the way here have now been completely abandoned. What he said to Zhao Yun now were all impromptu thoughts before he came to see Zhao Yun.

Liu Ye knew what he was doing in Youzhou, but after all the hardships, he finally arrived in Ji County, but encountered such a snowstorm. After seeing the cavalry army gathering to rescue and restore order, his mentality changed slightly.

Shandong said that the north of Guanzhong was full of barbaric customs and smelled fishy, ​​but now that Youzhou was suffering, where were those elegant and famous people?

Do the people of Youzhou need Shandong's Zhihuzheya and elegant demeanor more now, or do they need some food and clothing to survive this severe winter even though the cavalry army is not very polite?

What is the Han Dynasty?

Perhaps there are different answers in different people's minds.

However, for the children of the gentry, especially the royal family, the mysterious veil on the emperor may not have much effect.

Liu Ye is the same.

He has seen the emperor and knows what kind of person the emperor Liu Xie is.

If it were in a peaceful and prosperous era, then the emperor Liu Xie would have been a good emperor.

Because in times of peace, everything is basically stable, the less the emperor intervenes, the fewer problems there are in the counties. Except for the emperor's order to recruit disaster relief in times of disaster, other things can generally be handled within the counties.

However, in the current situation of unrest in the world, the emperor's lack of ability is fatal.

If the emperor cannot win the hearts of the various princes, he will inevitably be unable to control the chaos in the local area.

Moreover, Liu Ye can't tell these problems directly to the emperor Liu Xie!

On the one hand, if Liu Ye says it, if there is any problem, Liu Xie can't protect Liu Ye, doesn't it mean that Liu Ye is looking for death?

On the other hand, even if Liu Ye is not afraid of death and makes suggestions, but Liu Xie doesn't understand, or understands but doesn't do it, isn't it useless?

So Liu Ye's attitude towards the emperor Liu Xie is actually similar to the performance in history. Just a word, stop at that, don't say more, don't explain more, and don't force more.

The emperor asked him to bring the imperial edict to Zhao Yun, and Liu Ye followed the order.

So it can be said that after arriving in Ji County, Liu Ye's mission was basically over, and the rest was just some finishing touches. As for whether Zhao Yun was willing to accept the imperial edict, that was Zhao Yun's business. Liu Ye could not control it, and he could not sign the imperial edict on behalf of Zhao Yun.

The reason why Liu Ye did not return immediately was that he also wanted to take this opportunity to meet Zhao Yun and learn more about the situation of the cavalry army in an intuitive way, so as to avoid going back and not knowing anything, which would somewhat lose the style of a famous scholar. However, when he really saw the cavalry army treating the people of Youzhou, his heart was touched.

Liu Ye is a royal relative, but his relative...

As for what kind of aristocratic family, it is even more out of the question.

So Liu Ye didn't just stand there and sigh. He took off his brocade robe, picked up his pen and ink, and handled affairs with the clerks in the Cavalry Army...

Liu Ye felt that the Cavalry Army was different from what he had originally imagined.

And in turn, it was Liu Ye's behavior that made Zhao Yun feel that Liu Ye was different from those Shandong celebrities.

That's why Zhao Yun met Liu Ye, and why Liu Ye "pointed" Zhao Yun now...

Liu Ye didn't say much, but he was on the point.

Youzhou, belonging to the frontier, is actually not much different from Bingzhou and Liangzhou.

The reason why it is better than Bingliang is just because Youzhou and Jizhou are closer. The people of Jizhou are afraid that once Youzhou is completely lost, the barrier to the north will be lost, so their attitude towards Youzhou is not as indifferent as towards Bingliang.

The people of Jizhou think that having a little Youzhou is enough, so Liaodong and Lelang are dispensable.

People in Yuzhou felt that it didn't matter if Youzhou was gone. After all, if the sky fell, wouldn't there still be people from Jizhou to hold it up?

The gentry in the entire Central Plains of the Han Dynasty lost interest in the border areas, which were difficult to cultivate and had no high-yield crops, because of the rise of the landlord class, and they didn't want to expand outward at all.

On the contrary, because the border areas were bitter and cold and life was difficult, during the feudal dynasty, once the power of the border areas expanded, whether internally or externally, they would definitely erode the Central Plains under such unequal treatment.

It's not the lack of wealth that is worrying, but the inequality.

This is the truth that the ancestors of the Chinese people understood, but the Gini coefficient is still rising wildly in every feudal dynasty!

Liu Ye pointed out this problem.

The Hussars grew up in the frontiers of the Han Dynasty, in those areas despised by the Central Plains. The strategies they formulated were also biased towards those oppressed and forgotten people before, so just like Zhao Yun's treatment of the disaster-stricken people in Youzhou, they would soon receive support and response.

But...

Jizhou was not affected by the disaster.

Those landlords who had been watching the decline of the frontiers with their hands folded and their eyes coldly for three or four hundred years in the Han Dynasty, at least after Liu Xiu established the capital in Luoyang, and those who enjoyed the preferential treatment of the gentry and occupied the bureaucratic government agencies, would they be willing to accept the Hussars system?

Seeing that Zhao Yun was silent, Liu Ye did not wait for Zhao Yun to answer, and continued: "Since the Hussars were established in Guanzhong, most of the people who joined the Hussars were from humble families. Zheng Gong had many twists and turns in the North Sea, and Shuijing Jingzhou had been displaced for a long time, but they were not accepted by the Central Plains. It's not that they are bad, but like the people in the disaster, it's enough to have enough food and clothing! But what about Ji and Yu? If they lose their food and clothing, they will hate it. If you want to satisfy them, you will be resentful. With the wisdom of the general, you can distinguish. '

Although Liu Ye did not say it very clearly and did not refine an accurate expression, he undoubtedly pointed out the biggest contradiction between Guanzhong and Shandong at present, that is, the difference in production system and production relations!

Some people in later generations said that the aristocratic families only appeared during the Jin and Tang dynasties, but in fact it was not the case. Everything has a stage of derivative development, and we cannot take a single section or a time point to represent the whole. Yes, during the Jin and Tang dynasties, the aristocratic families were indeed the strongest and most representative, but tracing their roots, they were born during the Han Dynasty, especially during the Eastern Han Dynasty...

During the Eastern Han Dynasty, land annexation led to the emergence of large and small landlords. At the same time, because books were rare, Confucian classics were basically circulated within the door. Or it can be said that it is a circle, that is, a teacher-student relationship, or it can be called a teacher's school.

The landlord class monopolized the means of production and imprisoned the spread of knowledge, and governing the country requires these two aspects, so it is equivalent to monopolizing bureaucratic positions.

During the Han Dynasty, it was natural for the whole family to become officials, for one family to occupy a region, for newborns to receive benefits based on their years of service, and so on.

As these gentry and landlords gradually grew stronger, they naturally spoke for their class in the court and fought for more benefits. By the time of Emperor Ling of Han, these people had money, people, officials, culture, and military force, so what else did they need the court for?

Emperor Ling of Han wanted to manage, but he couldn't.

Zhao Yun obviously couldn't solve such a problem, so Zhao Yun remained silent and frowned.

"Under the cavalry, there are people from Jingxiang and Yingchuan," Liu Ye said slowly, "When the cavalry occupied Guanzhong, the people of Jingxiang and Yingchuan could work together. In Guanzhong, Jingxiang and Yingchuan are all foreign enemies. But if the cavalry enters the Central Plains... who is outside and who is inside? When Jingxiang sought Jingxiang, and Yingchuan paid homage to Yingchuan, what is the difference between the factions in the current Han Dynasty Central Plains and Shandong? '

Zhao Yun frowned and said, 'If the people of Shandong are so ignorant, what's wrong with getting rid of the bad and keeping the good? '

Liu Ye said frankly: 'The people of Shandong are like Liubo at this moment. If we talk about good and bad, it may not be the case. Liubo and Liuchou, can the good and bad be distinguished? The people of Yingchuan are under the prime minister, and they make plans with the prime minister, and they belong to the cavalry, and they offer their plans to the cavalry. They can be said to be good and bad, but it is absurd to judge the good and bad by this behavior? '

After any class is satisfied with food and clothing, it will inevitably seek more benefits and greater power.

This is a kind of inevitability.

Because as long as there is exploitation in human society and there is a system of squeezing surplus value, there will inevitably be such a problem.

The noble families and the powerful clans grew up from the blood of the Han Dynasty and tasted the sweet taste of monopolizing the political and economic fields. How could they give up easily?

Liu Ye's meaning is very simple. The nobles who can cooperate with the cavalry are not because they completely support the cavalry system, but because their families are spreading their bets, just like the chips in Liubo.

There is also fierce competition among the clans, such as those families who bet on the Yuan family before...

If you bet on it, you will get a lot of money, and if you don't bet on it, you will lose everything.

This is where the interests of the nobles and the princes are consistent, so Liu Ye said that the politics in the cavalry army is harmonious now, and the various factions cooperate with each other, because it is when the benefits are high, just like Yuan Shao was also a role model for the world back then?

"The prime minister is now in decline, not because of the prime minister's inability, but because of the prime minister's ability." Liu Ye shook his head slightly, "If the prime minister is incapable, the power will be divided among the counties, and the world will praise it! The Prime Minister now hates Shandong, which means he wants to gather Shandong's strength to resist Guanzhong! What Shandong hates is not Guanzhong, but the word "gather"! May I ask the general, if the cavalry gets the Central Plains, can it be done or not? Do they hate it or not? '

The noble families hope to assist a "wise monarch" and then maximize their value, but after assisting a wise monarch, conflicts of interest will inevitably arise. The local tyrants hope that a monarch like Emperor Wen of the Han Dynasty and Emperor Guangwu will emerge, who will reduce the army and simplify the government, rest and recuperate, and focus on agriculture and sericulture, so that the interests of the landlord class can be greatly guaranteed.

In short, these local nobles hope to be a "wise monarch", but at the same time a "weak emperor"!

Because the economic foundation of the clan is the manor economy created by annexing large amounts of land. The objects of their annexation are the yeoman farmers, and the yeoman farmers are the fundamental economic basis of the central royal family. The central government's taxes and military service need to be borne by the yeoman farmers. This makes the manor economy of the clan and the economy of the central government completely conflict with each other. .

So in history, when Cao Wei began to crack down on the powerful and strengthen the centralization of power, the noble families began to be dissatisfied. Later, the Sima family jumped out. Each of these powerful nobles either helped Sima cover up, or simply supported it secretly. Do you really think that if Sima raises his arms and shouts, dead soldiers will gather? Raising dead warriors also requires money, time, and a place. Guess why Mr. Cao was so vigilant and checked Sima's house several times, why couldn't he find out where these dead warriors were hiding?

In the Hussars, they now belong to the small powerful class, the small landlord class, representatives of the poor, and the children of the side branches. Unlike the aristocratic families, these people are a combination of big bureaucrats and big families. Their demands for power are not high for the time being. At this stage, their demands are It's a duty In fact, because the elites who were born as small landowners have no way out and their upward path is blocked, they are eager for opportunities, hoping that a wise king can promote them, hoping to break through the monopoly of the officialdom by the big gentry and powerful people, and get the opportunity to achieve success.

"The people of Youzhou have no food and clothing today but seek food and clothing, and tomorrow they have food and clothing and seek family property," Liu Ye said, "If Youzhou is like this, why not be like this in the world?" What the hussar can do can be sufficient for Guanzhong and Youzhou, but can it be sufficient for the whole world? 』

Liu Ye said "people", but in fact all these "people" do not refer to civilians.

Although history is actually created by the people, neither Liu Ye nor Zhao Yun have this awareness at the moment.

Zhao Yun, like a small group of other elites, initially pushed them to join the melee in the late Han Dynasty, not because of their lofty ideals, but mostly because of their desire to be able to "land to the tiller", where they could work with peace of mind and live in peace. Days are enough...

But now has Zhao Yun thought about taking a step further?

some.

What about everyone else?

"Why did Emperor Xiaoling appoint the Eighth School Lieutenant of Xiyuan?" Liu Ye said, "It's just that the superior wants to control the army and control the place." Why was Houxi Garden abandoned? Is it because the one entrusted to you by God is not a human being? This is only 1/2 out of 10! The fatigue of Xiyuan is a soldier! The Western Garden is about to be established, where will the soldiers come from? They are local people. Does the local government want to build a Western Garden? If the filial piety is not established, the prime minister cannot do it, but if the hussar is established, what can he do? 』

Zhao Yun frowned.

On the surface, Liu Ye was just talking about Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty, but Zhao Yun knew what Liu Ye really wanted to say...

The foundation of the central royal family in all dynasties lies in the control of military power. By the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, the Han Dynasty wanted to regain military power, but in fact the family quickly rebounded and the plan failed. This is something everyone knows, but what Liu Ye said The second half of what he said was something Zhao Yun didn't expect.

The reason why Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty failed was not only because of his own abilities, nor because he asked a eunuch to manage the army. The more important factor in the failure was that if Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty wanted to rebuild an army, he needed soldiers who could serve. and the food and fodder supplies to support this army. To put it simply, there must be enough peasants to pay taxes and serve. However, at this time, the peasants in the countryside were divided into chaos due to the merger of clans. The state and county officials responsible for taxation and the grassroots officials in the army were all disciples of the clans and were loyal to the clans. How could he support Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty to successfully recruit soldiers after passing the imperial court?

Therefore, the Eighth School Lieutenant of Xiyuan is broken from the root!

So what about Cao Cao and Fei Qian?

Where do the roots of Cao Cao and Fei Qian, that is, the source of their troops come from?

Obviously, Cao Cao's foundation is the 300,000 Qingzhou Yellow Turbans.

Although on the surface it seems that Cao Cao controlled these Qingzhou soldiers, from another perspective, did these Qingzhou Yellow Turbans also realize their original desire to obtain the means of production and live in an orderly manner? Did these Qingzhou soldiers, under Cao Cao, break the chain of land control originally held by local powerful families?

The situation with hussar is similar.

The first wave of Feiqian's demographic dividend was fed by the refugees from Heluo, the Baibo Army, and then the Black Mountain bandits. These people laid the foundation for Feiqian's military strength. The Xiliang Army and Bingzhou veterans who were later admitted, however, It is the icing on the cake on these foundations.

Therefore, Liu Ye believes that Fei Qian's and Cao Cao's soldier structures are actually similar.

The same problems that Cao Cao is encountering in Shandong are the same problems that Fei Qian will encounter when he comes. When the time comes, will Fei Qian accept the troops in Shandong or not?

Accept, there will definitely be a problem.

If you don’t accept it, problems will also arise.

After Liu Ye said this, he stopped and said no more.

Just like Liu Ye's previous habit, he just "pointed out" the problem...

This is actually a habit of "Shandong celebrities". They will tell the problem, and it is often free at this time. But if they want to solve the problem, either they can't solve it, or they need to pay an additional price. After all, knowledge is a very expensive thing in Shandong.

Zhao Yun frowned and thought. After a moment, he suddenly raised his eyebrows and smiled. He shook his head and said, "What you said is indeed to the point... However, you overlooked one thing..."

Liu Ye was stunned for a moment and couldn't help but ask: "What's the omission?" 』

Zhao Yun stretched out his hand, first pressed down from the top, then raised it up from the bottom, "In Shandong, soldiers and civilians are mostly selected from the top down, while in Guanzhong, soldiers and officials are selected from the bottom up! This is very different! '

This time it was Liu Ye who was stunned.

He originally came to see Zhao Yun, although he did not bring an imperial edict, but in fact he also wanted to use words to shake Zhao Yun's mind, so what he said was seven true and three false. He originally thought that even if Zhao Yun could find a flaw, it would be a matter for the future. Liu Ye could take this opportunity to learn more information and then find more flaws, which would become his bargaining chip. Whether he continued to bet in Shandong or moved to the place of the cavalry, he could have a higher position...

But Liu Ye never expected that such a general who looked ordinary, with thick hands and feet, and did not look like a scholar at all, would have such a quick mind and such a strong insight!