1991 Starting from the core
Chapter 843 The greatest contribution is to make money
Su Yuanshan has made this mistake more than once by looking at the history in his memory. So he will no longer take it for granted that Microsoft phones will be abandoned by history - although now it seems that Microsoft is walking on the same old path.
But who knows whether Microsoft mobile phones will rise?
You know, when Microsoft started to enter the field, the iPhone had not yet come out.
But now, Yidoo is out.
Moreover, the iPad is coming out too.
——If that is the case, it would be good to be able to sell chips.
Gates frowned tightly. After judging that Su Yuanshan was extremely serious in persuading him, he remained silent for a few seconds and then slowly shook his head.
“The world needs diversity, and technology needs it even more.”
"...The way you hold high the banner of morality is just like your ambition to dominate the world with Windows."
Gates looked at him and suddenly grinned: "You said this."
"Fu..." Su Yuanshan almost spit out blood.
"Haha, I admit the advantages of XY core on mobile devices, but that's not all. YOS+YX is the most powerful weapon."
"Who said Windows CE+YX won't work?" Su Yuanshan asked, rolling up his sleeves: "Who said that? Let him come to see me."
"...Su." Gates laughed when he saw this guy starting to act helpless - according to his experience with Su Yuanshan, when Su Yuanshan behaves like this, it means that he no longer persists.
However, just when Gates was about to pick up his phone to "research" again, Su Yuanshan stopped him again.
"Bill, two reasons."
"What?" Gates looked up and was startled.
"First, YX will start in the second half of the year, operate independently and without the control of Yuanxin. It will refer to the model when we let go of EDA and develop freely." Su Yuanshan looked at Gates and said softly: "If I were You, I would choose to invest in it.”
Gates instantly looked at Su Yuanshan.
"Second, I'm a little frustrated that you don't trust me after all these years..."
Gates immediately couldn't laugh or cry after hearing this: "How come I don't trust you?"
"You don't trust my judgment." Su Yuanshan stared at the other party and said seriously: "The world needs diversity, and technology needs it more. This sentence has always been right. What is wrong is that you replaced the mistake."
"In the field of mobile phones, there cannot be only one operating system. This is the diversity of the world, because the ecosystem created by the operating system is the side closest to users and is also the side presented to the world. It makes us all have different aesthetic and technical ideas. Confined - Just as you think MacOS, WinOC, and Linux, while putting pressure on Windows, also add more color to the bloom of technology."
Su Yuanshan said seriously while flattering him against his will.
"If I had to choose a rival operating system for mobile devices, I hope it would be Windows CE."
Gates looked at Su Yuanshan seriously. After discovering that this guy was really not lying and really sincerely believed that YOS could coexist with Windows, he smiled and shook his head, quite helpless - this guy, in the field of mobile phones , you really dare to say such big words in front of yourself!
"Bill, technology has such an infinite future. Even people like us, who are called magicians, will sometimes be unable to grasp the future - instead of facing the opponents we have faced so far, it is better to choose to fall in love with and kill old friends. "
"So, give up on MIPS, it can't beat YX."
Su Yuanshan's eyes were firm and his tone was sincere.
After a few seconds of silence, Gates breathed out softly.
"I will think about it."
*
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Ten days later, Su Yuanshan arrived in Shanghai from HK.
After communicating with the leader for half an hour, he went back to the hotel to stay in preparation for tomorrow's semiconductor summit.
According to the plan, the summit will discuss the current form of semiconductors, technology development status, and future development directions. It will last for three days. Every day, different industry representatives and technology giants in the scientific research field will take the stage to conduct discussions in the form of PPT. speech.
Yuan Xin's speech was the last one, and it was also Su Yuanshan's appearance.
"Mr. Shan, Huajing's Director Zhou invited me to dinner tonight..."
Su Yuanshan stared at the notebook and was taking the time to check the PPT page by page and get familiar with it again.
"No time." Su Yuanshan said without raising his head: "Tell Lao Zhou and I will invite him tomorrow night."
"Oh, okay." Wen Xiaoqian just answered and was about to call back when there was a sudden knock on the door.
Su Yuanshan raised his head: "You didn't hang up Do Not Disturb?"
"Hang up...but I guess...it might be Director Zhou." Wen Xiaoqian smiled bitterly and raised her phone: "I heard his voice sounded like he was in the corridor just now."
"Hey...this old man."
Su Yuanshan looked at the door. When Fu Zhenhua, who was sitting at the door, opened the door knowingly, sure enough, black-haired Zhou Boguang stood at the door in high spirits.
"Yo?" Su Yuanshan closed the notebook and a smile quickly appeared on his face: "Did this young brother go to the wrong door?"
"Hahaha, you guy!" Zhou Boguang pointed at Su Yuanshan and strode forward.
Su Yuanshan also walked out of the sofa and shook hands with Zhou Boguang tightly.
It can be seen that Lao Zhou has really worked hard for this semiconductor summit - his hair has been gray a few years ago, and today it was all dyed black.
But don't mention it, once his hair turns white, he does look much younger.
The two of them went back to the sofa and sat down without much exchange. Wen Xiaoqian quickly brought Zhou Boguang a cup of tea, and then she and Fu Zhenhua went next door.
"Uncle Zhou, we haven't seen each other for a long time." Su Yuanshan smiled and looked at Zhou Boguang, who had deep wrinkles because of his smile: "But you look like you are in great shape, and you will have no problem if you continue to fuck him for another thirty years. "
"Haha, thirty years, I'm afraid you'll kill me... I'm afraid I won't be able to work for another ten years." Zhou Boguang picked up the tea cup, took a sip and looked at Su Yuanshan.
His eyes were filled with endless emotion.
——Ten years ago, Su Yuanshan "broke into" his office like a young boy and showed his genius in integrated circuit design in front of him. While he got the tape-out quota, he also helped Yuanshan. Xinxin's EDA has made a big advertisement.
Since then, Huajing and Yuanxin have formed an indissoluble bond.
He watched with his own eyes that Su Yuanshan and Yuanxin gradually grew up. From the beginning of the EDA-software industry, they quickly grew into the dominant players in the domestic semiconductor and even the entire technology field. Leaders and giants could no longer be used to describe Yuanxin. volume.
It’s only been ten years!
And now, Yuanxin wants to take up the banner of the entire Asian Internet and challenge the entire Western semiconductor industry!
Such a bold and crazy feat has never happened before, even twenty years ago, when Niguo Semiconductor was at its peak and four of the five major semiconductor companies were Niguo companies!
This is something that no one dared to mention when domestic semiconductor people drank so much together in the late 1980s that they fell unconscious and threatened to go to heaven.
"Uncle Zhou?" Su Yuanshan's voice called Zhou Boguang back from his slight distraction.
"Well, okay." Zhou Boguang breathed out, his eyes clearing up: "Xiaoshan, you know I can't talk nonsense..."
Su Yuanshan laughed bitterly after hearing this.
He could guess with his toes the reason why Zhou Boguang "lost his old face" to come to him.
"Uncle Zhou, it doesn't matter what I say."
"Bullshit." Zhou Boguang never discussed friendship with Su Yuanshan based on his status, so he never cared about words. Of course, he said this with a smile: "I won't say it in the world. As far as Asia is concerned, who doesn't?" Do you know that if Su Yuanshan sneezes, the semiconductor industry will catch a cold?"
"Holy shit... who spread this news? They want to flatter me and give me eye drops!" Su Yuanshan's eyes widened, but he was really a little surprised: "Uncle Zhou, it can't be you, right?"
"..." Zhou Boguang was speechless for a while: "Am I this kind of person in your eyes, Su Yuanshan?"
"Hehe... of course not." Su Yuanshan also came to his senses and smiled quickly: "Uncle Zhou is so upright and upright, let alone talk about it. Based on our relationship, you will not put me on the fire like this, right? Well—how can I control the semiconductor industry?"
Zhou Boguang did not agree with him, but smiled meaningfully: "But there is one thing to say. No matter who said this or what the purpose is, this sentence can be regarded as expressing the consensus of our group of people."
"..." Su Yuanshan didn't know how to answer now.
The semiconductor circle is not small at all - if you include the entire upstream and downstream industry chain, it is the foundation of the entire current technology field, and of course it is not small. But when it comes to big things, it’s really not big, especially in the two fields of wafer fabs and chip design.
Everyone meets each other without looking up. They talk to each other, do favors, etc. It happens anytime and anywhere.
Since the circle is small, it is naturally clear who has how much energy.
In the Asian semiconductor circle, if you have to find a person with the most weight, then this person is undoubtedly Su Yuanshan - it must be him.
Especially in the domestic semiconductor field, Deyuan, Hongxin, and Huajing, the two major wafer fabs and photolithography machine manufacturers, all have close relationships with Su Yuanshan. It's just that the first two are controlled by Yuanxin, while the latter has inherited too much love from Su Yuanshan...
There were even rumors that Yuanxin actually wanted to support "Huajing" at the beginning, but for one reason or another, Huajing refused Yuanxin's shareholding, which led Yuanxin to start a new business and establish Deyuan.
"But Uncle Zhou, the EUV Asia League is really not something I can do with just one sentence. And let me put it this way... This is a huge gamble with no future at all. Although the weight is not much - look at it now It will probably cost several billion yuan, but I have a hunch that as the world economy repeats itself and then enters the fast lane, when we really get it done, we may not be able to save tens of billions of yuan."
Su Yuanshan said seriously: "There are rumors that ASML is considering inviting AMD, Intel and Samsung to take shares."
Zhou Boguang was startled: "Didn't you invite Deyuan?"
Su Yuanshan snorted softly: "I heard that I had an idea, but was stopped."
"Idiot." Zhou Boguang said clearly.
"Yes, idiot." Su Yuanshan said happily.
“But the reason behind this is that the technical investment is too large, and it is simply impossible to rely on ASML’s current size and profits. In other words, even if we successfully break through all the technical problems, we still need to complete the engineering machine and achieve mass production. production, then the subsequent investment will not be even a little bit. It is very likely that the EUV project alone will cost tens of billions every year..."
Zhou Boguang took a breath of cold air and hit his heels.
"So, Uncle Zhou... I personally think that instead of coming in to mix things up, you should keep your money on process research and development and scale expansion."
Zhou Boguang frowned tightly.
What did you say about a popular movie last year? If a person has no dreams, what is the difference between him and a salted fish?
Both he and Huajing, who is now developing day by day, have dreams.
Yes, in the past few years, Huajing's path has been to "fill" the market gap left by Deyuan, and in the past two years, thanks to the Asian financial crisis in the past few years, Southeast Asian wafer factories have been wailing. In addition, Countercyclical investment, as well as state support... Today, Huajing has successively "killed" TSMC and UMC in the field of professional foundry, becoming the next "soup drinker".
In the semiconductor industry, the boss eats the meat and the second child drinks the soup.
So when Zhou Boguang came here this time, he came with the mentality of wanting to take a sip of soup - didn't AMD also join the EUV alliance of the United States? Not only AMD has entered, but there are also several second-rate players who have entered later.
Then Huajing can naturally enter the EUV Asia League.
But Su Yuanshan said tens of billions of investments... This really scared Zhou Boguang.
Huajing does have two funds now, but it does not have the foundation and confidence to invest more than one billion yuan casually.
"Uncle Zhou, and let me tell the truth." Seeing Zhou Boguang's frowning gaze, Su Yuanshan sighed secretly in his heart and said with a smile: "Don't be angry."
"When have I ever been angry with you? Just say it." Zhou Boguang came back to his senses and glanced at Su Yuanshan: "I'm really going to be angry if you don't tell the truth."
"Well, good. Compared with the EUV Alliance of the United States and the United States, we have natural shortcomings. Especially in the theoretical field, the three major national laboratories of the United States and Laos are really not built."
"Um."
"So, what we lack most is technology and strong scientific research units and technical strength." Su Yuanshan squinted his eyes and said softly: "Frankly speaking, if we only look at EUV related technologies, there are only Deyuan and Hong Kong in China. These three companies, Xinxin and Yuanxin, have sufficient qualifications.”
"Chang Guang can't do anything?" Zhou Boguang was surprised.
"I can only say, barely." Su Yuanshan said seriously: "If it were the status and scale of Changguang Institute twenty years ago, it would be okay."
"..."
"In order to show respect for each member of the EUV Alliance, we adopt a recommendation voting system. Currently, Toshiba, Tokyo Electronics, Gigaphoton, plus the University of Tokyo, there are four companies in Japan. We are three domestic companies, and then everyone benchmarks, we I chose T University.”
"..."
"The first batch, there are only ten members for the time being, and there are two spots left. One will probably go to SK from the country, and one will probably go to Singapore."
"..."
“Because both Changguang Institute and T University provide technology, our suggestion is that Tsinghua University and Changguang Institute form a joint technical research team to join.”
Su Yuanshan shrugged as he said: "To be honest, if we didn't have a light source team, Yuanxin's biggest contribution among this group of members would be to make money."
"..."
After being speechless for several times in a row, Zhou Boguang suddenly took a breath: "Where are Nikon and Canon? None of them?"
"Haha... I heard that Nikon is still considering it." Su Yuanshan's eyes flashed and he snorted softly.
(The reason why I am so late today is that I have doubts about life. Why is my daughter so bad at physics, especially electricity, especially circuits??? She can get 40 points in the exam...)
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