New Shun 1730

Historically, the Industrial Revolution gave Britain an illusion: many people thought that it was purely relying on advanced machinery production that created a huge market in India.

Relying on advanced machinery production capacity and purely relying on advanced machinery production capacity are two different things.

The key lies in the word "pure".

And this illusion was greatly expanded due to the colonization of America, Africa and other places.

Especially some colonies in America, they did not have hundreds or thousands of years of handicraft accumulation, such as Costa Rica, and could only choose to trade and import cotton cloth from Britain.

However, the British may have forgotten, or deliberately ignored, or deliberately avoided it. The vast market in India was achieved by bayonets, cannons, famine, commercial robbery, heavy taxes, and the destruction of the achievements of Indian civilization, that is, the past productivity.

The New World colonies under mercantilism existed as markets in themselves. There was no spontaneous generation of strong handicrafts and extensive handicraft economies between regions.

It can be said that the colonies in the New World did not have the ability to produce cotton cloth from the beginning.

In Asia, it was completely different.

If Dashun continues to follow the inertia and path of history, it may also produce a radical confusion in a few decades.

However, as Dashun really went to Europe to sell goods, many problems were figured out by Dashun itself.

Social existence determines social consciousness.

Dashun may not understand India comprehensively. For example, issues such as religion and caste.

But it understands the various problems brought about by the development of handicrafts and commodity shocks at the macroeconomic level.

Because Dashun has always been troubled by this problem, and because it has this problem itself, it understands this problem quite well.

It is precisely because of this understanding that Dashun’s purpose is very clear, which is to destroy India’s existing productivity, that is, to destroy the achievements of civilization.

But on the other hand, the tragic situation, uprisings, and resistance that occurred during the destruction deepened Dashun’s fear and anxiety, especially the current situation of being in a dilemma. How to solve it?

In the Surat Port, on the ship carrying Liu Yu’s coffin, the court officials who went with the ship to welcome the bones were all worried after listening to the description of the stationed officials in India.

They were not only going to welcome Liu Yu's body, but also to investigate the situation in Europe and to Paris to support the Physiocrats. These people were naturally from the New School.

In recent years, with the development of Dashun, the New School has gradually become a mainstream political force in Dashun from its initial state of growth in secret. Dashun's external expansion, colonization, and industrial development have also greatly increased the economic strength of the New School, which has actually suppressed the traditional imperial examination school. Many people have given up the traditional imperial examination route and switched to practical learning.

If we say that 20 or 30 years ago, Dashun was facing the problem of retreating or moving forward.

At that time, the reactionary forces still had a little possibility of retreating.

Now, this problem no longer exists.

And a new problem has also arisen: how to move forward?

The debate on this issue has been debated countless times within the Practical School over the years.

Of course, the debate here is not the kind of revolutionary debate, but still within the scope of reform.

The focus of the debate is actually somewhat similar to some of the views of the French Physiocrats.

Now in Surat, this group of people who have witnessed the drastic changes in Europe and the flames of war in India are arguing about a "pure" academic issue.

Although they are beside Liu Yu's coffin, even if they know that everything is empty after death, the people around his coffin who are arguing about the chaos in Surat quote Liu Yu's words to prove that they are right.

Although it is not the first time that the question of what to do with Dashun in the future has been debated, this time, because of the trip to Europe and the chaos in India, the debate is inevitably more explosive.

"In the past, Duke Xingguo talked about the issue of cost and profit. According to this, textile mills should not be built in inland areas. All textile mills have been built in coastal areas."

"We now have Java in India. Now two-thirds of the world's cotton is in our hands. We don't need to grow cotton in the inland areas, and we shouldn't encourage people to grow cotton. As long as the navy is still there, there will be no shortage of cotton. Even if India really separates one day, their cotton will always be sold abroad."

"In this case, the cost advantage of sea transportation, the advantage of Yangtze River transportation, the advantage of food in sea transportation... all these, no matter what, the inland areas can't compete with the coastal areas."

"Then, building textile mills in the inland areas, isn't it meaningless? ? Can the food in the inland be cheaper than the rice from the South Seas and sorghum from the Northeast on the coast? Even if we don't consider the food problem, can the cotton grown in the inland compete with India and Java? "

"Add the freight for transporting coal fuel and the labor cost of food prices... Building a textile factory in the inland is purely a little man's idea."

"Now there are more troubles. If this Indian cotton yarn enters the inland, if the counties in Jianghan and Hebei all rise to women weaving, the sideline will overwhelm the main business."

"If you draw on a piece of white paper, it is simple; but if there are existing traces of the painting, you have to erase the traces of the painting."

"Even if it is built today, once the currency is opened in the future, it will only lead to bankruptcy. Why bother to take off your pants and fart? This is one of them. "

"Secondly, the yarn of the spinning machine is now tough enough, and the machine-woven cloth can be comparable to the hand-woven cloth in the past. The price is low and the quality is good... At this time, the more cotton yarn is sold in the mainland, the more difficult it will be to switch to machine-woven cloth in the future."

"You have all witnessed the miserable situation of Indian weavers since they went to Southeast Asia. In the past, we used warships, bayonets and tariffs to force these weavers to death; in the future, machine-woven cloth will spontaneously force the weavers in the mainland to death."

"Although there are differences, they are all death."

"So, it is better to suffer a short pain than a long pain. Why not do it in one step and directly open up the mainland market. While the court still has spare power, it is better to suffer a short pain than a long pain, and directly force the handicraftsmen in the mainland to death!"

"How did the Duke of Xingguo force the salt cooks to death in the past? Isn't it the same principle?"

This is obviously a radical faction within Dashun today, and his ideas are no different from those of the Physiocrats. Support the opening of internal currency exchange, support the cancellation of shipping inspections in the Yangtze River and other places, and support the direct influx of industrial capital from developed regions into the mainland.

What he said does not sound unreasonable.

This has a great deal to do with the current situation of Dashun: Dashun actually no longer has the possibility of growing cotton internally and building textile factories around the Jianghan Plain, Luxi Plain and other cotton-growing areas.

There is no need for this - Dashun has not been blocked, secondly, there is no shortage of overseas cotton, thirdly, the raw material production areas are all within its own system, and fourthly, the food security of the mainland has always been a big problem.

There is no economic possibility either - the shipping cost is here, the stability of food prices is here, the distance to the raw material production areas is here, the accumulation of technology is here, the degree of capital enrichment is here, and the mainland has no competitiveness.

In this case, as he said, what textile industrialization is there in the mainland? Isn't that taking off your pants to fart?

It seems to be talking about textiles here, but in fact it is not just textiles, but most of the light industries.

For example, copper, lead, zinc, etc. in Yunnan and Guizhou cannot be moved to other places, so there is no competition between the first and the last; for example, coal mines and iron mines, if they are available, they are available, and if they are not, they are not available.

But light industry is different.

For cotton, indigo, raw silk from Rajshahi, grain from Southeast Asia, oil, salt and alkali, etc., the advantages of sea transportation are huge.

Moreover, since Dashun is now an imperialist country, it does not need to squeeze out arable land in the internal areas to grow cash crops in order to develop industry.

These raw materials basically come from overseas. Since they come from overseas, the cost advantage is here, which cannot be changed.

Moreover, there is also a meaning of "learning from history" in this person's words. He is well aware of the chaos and despair after the destruction of the Indian weaving industry, and has also witnessed the rapid application of new cotton textile technologies in America in Europe.

So, what he means is that now relying on machine spinning, it is obvious that Dashun's handmade cotton cloth industry may reach a new level. In the future, these handicrafts will definitely be destroyed. If they have never developed or never existed, if they are in America now, then it would be fine to use machines directly in the future; but since they exist and may become more developed, it is better to suffer a short pain than a long pain, and not let them continue to develop at all, otherwise the pain experienced by Indian weavers will have to experience large-scale unemployment again.

Since it started from Ceylon, Dashun has been operating in South Asia for a long time. When "learning from history" in the future, we can add the history of South Asia in these years.

It sounds like what he said is right.

The inland areas have actually completely lost the opportunity to compete with the coastal advanced regions. Especially light industry, especially now that most raw materials are overseas and the cost of sea transportation is the lowest, this must be, there is no chance at all.

However, the voice of opposition is not non-existent. Moreover, the voice of opposition is obviously also from the practical school, and it is definitely not the old-fashioned way of reading sage books, and even some of Liu Yu's principles are said in their mouths.

So right in front of Liu Yu's coffin, the objector also brought out what Liu Yu had said before and retorted: "This is wrong. The Duke of Xingguo once made a metaphor, saying that people have to poop after eating, and they have to eat again after pooping, so does that mean they don't have to eat?"

"Since you used the example of the Duke of Xingguo destroying the salt households in the past, I also have an example here. In the past, the Duke of Xingguo tamed the Yellow River and dug a canal. At that time, India had just arrived, and the fleet completely blocked India's cotton cloth exports. It was the time for Songsu cotton cloth to develop greatly, but the Duke of Xingguo still chose to force a share and took it to Luxi, which ate this part of the share and survived the period of digging the canal."

"As you said, the Duke of Xingguo was also taking off his pants to fart in vain? Luxi Sooner or later, the cotton textile industry in Songsu will be eaten up by Indian cotton, spinning machines, and machine cloth. So the share should not have been distributed to Luxi in the first place? Is it the Duke of Xingguo who is hindering progress and affecting the development of Songsu's cotton textile industry? "

"Nowadays, the textile industry in Jianghan and other places is booming, all thanks to the imperial banknotes and ports, which protect the local nascent industry - Duke Xingguo said: buds."

"If the banknotes are opened and the ports are withdrawn. With Songsu's sufficient capital, sufficient raw materials, and control of raw cotton, these buds will all die."

"Our dynasty is not like France, the Holy Roman Empire, and other places. Therefore, for the continued development of industry, banknotes and ports are indispensable, and the model of "spreading all over the place, blooming everywhere, and centers in all provinces and prefectures" should be adopted. "

"If France should have Paris, Hubei should have Hankou, and Sichuan should have Chengdu... instead of being completely overwhelmed by the first-mover provinces that rely on overseas raw materials, shipping costs, and sufficient capital."

"The current situation is like this: Because of the existence of the cash gate, one stone of cotton, yarn, etc. from Java, India. The first province can eat ten buckets of cotton and turn it into cotton cloth. However, due to the existence of the internal currency gate, Cotton cloth is heavily taxed, so only ten bushels of cotton cloth are available. Four bushels of cotton can be eaten, and only six bushels of cotton can be fed into the mainland. Jianghan's textile industry has made great progress in recent years. It is because of these six bushels of raw cotton yarn that none of the ten bushels of cotton can enter the mainland. Just in Songsu, everything becomes cotton."

"Unless one day, the imperial court is defeated at sea, and 70% to 80% of the 10% Indian cotton flows to Europe. Without cotton, Jianghan may be able to grow cotton again, and Hankou will regain its advantage due to its proximity to the cotton producing areas. Otherwise, once the currency barrier is relaxed, Zikou, in two years at most, the textile industry in Jianghan will have no cotton available, and the tragic situation will not be reached. "

The man who previously supported the complete opening of the internal market snorted: "Moving forward is always costly! In the past, millions of canal workers made Yangzhou prosperous. Is this why the canal will not be abandoned and the Yellow River will not be regulated? Duke Xingguo Don’t you know that after the canal transportation was abolished, Yangzhou’s thousand-year glory would be destroyed in his hands? But didn’t he just abolish the canal transportation and start the sea transportation without even blinking? Yangzhou will be miserable, but Jianghan will be miserable?”

Those who retorted also said angrily: "How long have you been struggling with the canal issue? Counting from the time when the shipping center moved northward, there have been intermittent uprisings and suppressions for fifty years. Qing Dynasty in the north and Yangzhou in the south are both For Qiu Xu.”

"Near Yangzhou, 70,000 salt workers were suppressed; in Wuling and Xijiang, no less than 100,000 were killed; up and down the canal, no less than 7 to 800,000 were forced to leave, either working as long-term workers in Liaoning or traveling to Southeast Asia to cut sugar cane, and no less than 30 died during the period. Ten thousand. This is just one million water works.”

"And there are more than a million people in the Mainland who make a living from side jobs? Nowadays, not only cotton is priced down by the court in Java, India, but raw silk, rice, jute, wood, lacquer juice, oil, etc. are all produced overseas. In addition to cotton cloth , all walks of life are affected, not just millions of water workers?"

"I'm not against industrial development, and you know that too. I just think that affairs in the world should be carefully considered. They should be arranged in a star-studded way with flowers blooming everywhere..."

Thirty years after Liu Yu left, Dashun has finally reached this historical process: someone finally raised the issues in Nasan's "The Beet Pimple Problem": One is the concentration of large industries in advantageous areas. thinking; one is the survival of some industries and practitioners in the mainland.

In France, it was reflected in the beet dough; in Dashun, it was reflected in some inland budding industries that were struggling to sprout and move forward.

France is not so big that beetroot is a problem; Dashun is big enough, and it has obtained overseas colonies and raw material production areas. It is not a big problem at all to destroy the cash crops in the mainland, but the budding industries scattered in various places are a big problem.

Beet knots and this are actually the same thing, they just appear differently. This is the homogeneity issue that the internal reformists in Dashun thought about after history reached this point and Liu Yu was already lying in the coffin.

Having reached this point, it is impossible not to consider this issue whether you are the spokesperson for the interests of the emerging class or from the traditional moral perspective of the people of the country and the country.

This question actually has an answer.

But unfortunately, this answer cannot be written by the Dashun Dynasty.