Rebirth 99 to become a car giant
Chapter 965 The first experiment of the starship
"The difficulty of landing on the moon is much more difficult than sending people to the space station."
"If you are not careful, there will be big problems."
Qian Junfeng felt that it was better to remind him, so as not to pour cold water on Venusstar Technology.
Although Aerospace Technology is a competitor of Venusstar Technology to a certain extent.
But there is more cooperation than competition between the two sides.
"So we plan to build a lunar orbit space station first, figure out the atmospheric environment and various conditions on the moon, and then go further to the moon."
Cao Yang will definitely not change his mind because of Qian Junfeng's persuasion.
Landing on the moon and building a lunar base are projects that Venusstar Technology has planned a long time ago.
Now that all conditions have gradually matured, there is no need to continue to delay.
After so many years of accumulation, China's overall industrial strength has now reached the stage of explosion.
Especially with the support of Nanshan companies, the trend in this regard is even more obvious.
"Mr. Cao, are you taking a big step?"
Seeing that Cao Yang didn't seem to listen to his words at all, Qian Junfeng was a little anxious.
If Venus Technology fails, it will also affect the development of the entire Chinese aerospace industry.
This is definitely not the situation he wants to see.
"Thank you, Mr. Qian, for reminding us. Before we officially land on the moon, we will definitely conduct various technical confirmations and will not take action until we are confident enough."
Cao Yang did not want to discuss this topic in depth with Qian Junfeng.
Facts speak louder than words.
It is meaningless to say more now.
Qian Junfeng is not stupid. He knows that he can't persuade Cao Yang.
So he didn't bother about it anymore.
However, just because he didn't bother about it doesn't mean that others didn't bother about it.
On the other side of the Pacific Ocean, NASA Director Griffin and a group of people from Space Exploration Technologies Corporation sat in a conference room to discuss this matter.
"Venus Technology is going to start testing the starship, and the progress is much faster than ours."
Relatively speaking, Musk is more concerned about the development of the starship.
On the contrary, Musk is not so concerned about the lunar orbital space station.
Because his goal has always been Mars, not the moon.
However, Griffin is more concerned about the situation on the moon.
Especially, Venus Technology said that it would land on the moon in the future and build a base on the moon.
This made him very nervous.
Once Venus Technology's moon landing is successful, people will definitely associate it with the previous moon landings.
America and the polar bears have made great efforts in publicity in this regard.
But everything is afraid of comparison. Once there are too many comparisons, some problems can't be covered up.
So the best way is to let America land again, so that many problems can be covered up.
This is obviously not what he wants to see.
"Venus Technology's starship has just begun testing, and it is estimated that there will be a long time before the first flight."
"But their lunar orbital space station will be officially established this year, and the next step will definitely be the moon landing."
"This progress is far beyond our expectations."
"At present, the relevant departments have approved NASA to build a space station again. I think the moon landing plan also needs to be started again."
Griffin doesn't think that Venus Technology's starship can be done so quickly.
After all, no country has ever made such a special rocket in the past.
The key is that this is a recyclable rocket, which makes it even more difficult.
"The launch and assembly of the space station are not a big problem, but our technical accumulation for the moon landing is basically zero."
Musko told the truth and did not intend to hide anything.
After all, the time at Venus is so tight that they can't overtake at all.
If everyone expects too much from Space Exploration Technologies, he will be under great pressure.
"We have accumulated technology for the moon landing at NASA."
"But the specific technical plan needs to be discussed again."
Griffin has not figured out how to convince the relevant departments to approve the moon landing plan.
After all, the cost of this project will definitely not be small.
But its economic significance is difficult to measure after all.
"I think the development of Starship is more necessary than the moon landing?"
"Venus Technology has already walked ahead of us, but we have only completed the development of the Falcon Heavy rocket, and the development of similar products of Starship has not officially started."
Musko knew that if he didn't fight for it at this time, he would have to work hard in the future according to the development direction Griffin said.
Once a decision is made on this kind of general direction, it is very difficult to adjust it.
The most important thing is that the cost of adjustment will be very high.
"The development of starships is naturally very important. After all, it can be used not only to explore Mars, but also to explore the moon."
"If a lunar base needs to be built in the future, starships can also play a relatively large role, transporting a large amount of materials to the moon at one time."
Griffin did not completely deny Musk's statement, which can also be regarded as a kind of conversation art.
Otherwise, if you deny everything others say, then it will obviously not be so easy to convince the other party.
"However, whether we go to Mars or the moon, it would be best if we have our own space station in space, or even a base on the moon, and start from the moon."
"These have been proven in previous technical verifications."
Granfen obviously still wants to follow his own logic, build a space station first, march to the moon, and then talk about Mars.
If you must go to Mars, then just send a few probes there.
In the short term, it is more reliable to deal with the moon.
"We have landed on the moon for decades, and there is no particular significance for exploration."
"But Mars is different. There may be a lot of water there. As long as this is confirmed, it may become a planet suitable for building a base in the future."
Although countless scientists believe that in the vast universe, there must be planets similar to the earth that are suitable for human survival.
But the universe is too big, and now humans can't even get out of the solar system, so it doesn't make much sense to talk about other things.
Even if there is a place that is very suitable for human habitation on a planet tens of thousands of light years away, so what?
From birth to death, you are still on the road, and there is no way to get there.
Therefore, before there are more imaginative technological breakthroughs, it is completely hopeless to settle on planets outside the solar system.
But Mars is different. If you jump and work hard, you can still touch its possibility.
That's why Musk is very positive.
He really hopes that he can die on Mars in this life and become one of the first immigrants.
"The funding support that the relevant departments can provide is relatively limited. We can't support both landing on Mars and landing on the moon at the same time."
"Now the Chinese are marching towards the moon with all their strength. We can't fall behind."
Seeing that Musk couldn't be persuaded, Griffin was a little annoyed.
NASA's current strength has declined significantly. They can't handle so many things by themselves.
So Griffin hopes to get the support of Space Exploration Technology Company, and both sides will work together to get the moon exploration done.
But Musk has never been interested.
"We are not behind. We landed on the moon decades ago, but China is still working towards this goal."
Musk's statement made Griffin not know how to refute.
You can't tell Musk that the moon landing was true or false, and many things are not suitable for publicity.
Otherwise, it would be embarrassing if you accidentally reveal your true colors.
In the end, the matter was definitely not settled.
NASA can only consider the moon landing first, or persuade Musk later.
While America was worried about the actions of Venustech, the European Space Agency was also struggling with what attitude it should take.
"Joseph, do you think it is possible to build a space station and launch a moon landing like Venustech?"
As the director of the European Space Agency, Werner must consider the long-term development of the agency.
Seeing the start of a new round of competition in the world's aerospace field, Europe cannot remain indifferent.
"It is difficult for us to develop the Earth orbital space station independently, and now we have started cooperation with Venusstar Technology."
"In this case, we have to skip the Earth orbital space station and directly build the lunar orbital space station and land on the moon. It is too difficult."
"It is estimated that the member states will not support investing so much money to develop technologies that we don't know when they will succeed."
Although Joseph was a little unwilling, he also hoped that the European Space Agency could rise, but the fact is that.
As the director of the technical center, he dare not say anything that cannot be done.
Otherwise, there will be countless holes to fill in the future.
"Ah, it is true. Things like landing on the moon were only done by polar bears and the United States before, and now China is doing it too."
"But if Europe wants to do it, it is too difficult. It is better to cooperate with China."
In 2015, the relationship between China and Europe was still quite good.
Even if the United States wanted to pull Europe to suppress China, the effect was not very good.
So Werner is also willing to cooperate with China.
Or he actually has no more choices.
Now only China has officially announced that it will land on the moon, and not only Venustech is going to land on the moon, but also Aerospace Science and Technology.
It can be said that there are two institutions in China that are carrying out the moon landing operation.
This is unprecedented in the world.
"We have already cooperated with the Chang'e space station, and the possibility of continuing to cooperate on the lunar orbital space station and the moon landing project is still very high."
"And if we communicate earlier, we may be able to get better conditions."
"Venustech does not seem to be very opposed to various international cooperation."
After listening to Werner's words, Joseph knew what was going on.
His boss's ideas are similar to his own, so it's easy to deal with.
The focus now is how to participate in Venustech's actions.
"It just so happens that our cooperation project with Chang'e Space Station will be officially launched soon. We will go to Venusstar Technology to exchange ideas and discuss cooperation on lunar orbital space station and moon landing."
"Although we cannot complete these activities alone, we can still provide some equipment or instruments to the other party to play our role, which will be more attractive when we promote it."
Werner felt that since he had already thought about what to do, he should act quickly.
Otherwise, someone might get there first.
The Polar Bear United Rocket and Space Company also had similar ideas.
"Dmitri, you said that China will build a lunar orbital space station so soon, and then consider moon landing next year."
"Does this have anything to do with the rocket engine technology and other things we shared with them before?"
Grogin's mood is very complicated now.
On the one hand, he envied the rapid development of Venusstar Technology and hoped that the Polar Bear would have the same situation.
On the other hand, he felt that the other party's development was so fast, partly because he had helped the enemy.
Especially because there was not enough money to purchase the other party's products, some of the technology was used in exchange.
At that time, I felt that those technologies were not particularly meaningful to Polar Bear, and China would not be able to use them so quickly.
But the current situation is not the case at all.
The other party seemed to have quickly used the technology shared by us and made innovations.
This is very depressing.
"It's hard to say now, after all, Venus Technology has only announced some plans and has not specifically demonstrated their various technologies."
"But more or less, there should be some relationship."
Dmitri naturally knew why Grogin asked this question.
In the global aerospace industry circle, the things announced by Venus Technology are all big things.
The number of rocket launches in 2015 will exceed 200 times.
This is almost the sum of the number of rocket launches by all countries in the world last year.
Then the testing of the Starship rocket will be launched soon. Although it will take some time before it is officially put into use, it is also a very huge breakthrough.
There is also the construction of the lunar orbital space station, which can be regarded as a world record.
As for the moon landing and lunar base that followed, it was even more full of fantasy.
How many years has it been since humans set foot on the moon?
Venusstar Technology, as a private enterprise in China, actually wants to develop moon landing and even build a lunar base.
It's incredible to think about it.
But few people in the industry dare to jump out and deny Venusstar Technology's plan.
After all, all the boasts made by Venusstar Technology in the past have been gradually realized now.
Those industry leaders don't want to be slapped in the face.
"What cooperative attitude do you think we should take on this matter?"
A Starlink satellite system has already consumed a lot of funds from the United Rocket and Space Corporation. It is absolutely impossible to build a lunar orbital space station and moon landing in a short period of time.
Grogin is very sure of this.
So he did not mention that his company would independently develop these projects.
"Either pretend that nothing happened and downplay this matter in domestic publicity."
"Or find a way to participate in this project. We still have some technologies that Venusstar Technology is interested in."
"As long as we are willing to come up with some core technologies, we should still be able to get cooperation opportunities."
Grotin did not answer directly after Dmitri said this.
He was thinking about the pros and cons of this matter for the polar bear.
The relationship between the two sides has been getting better and better in recent years, so there will definitely not be much resistance in the overall environment.
But as long as the United Rocket and Space Corporation chooses this cooperation, it will be even more distant to think about developing a lunar orbital space station and moon landing independently in the future.
This impact is what Grotin needs to consider.
"Let's communicate with the relevant departments first to see if we can take this opportunity to get more financial support."
"If there is no more funding, then we will come up with a new cooperation plan to find Venusstar Technology to communicate about the cooperation between the two sides."
Grotin did not have many choices.
Venusstar Technology is now ahead, with funds and technology.
In this case, the rarity of their technology has dropped a lot.
He has fewer cards in his hand.
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Some companies can cooperate, but some companies know very well that they have no chance of cooperation.
The Tianzhu Space Research Organization knows very well that Venus Technology will not cooperate with them.
They thought about contacting Venus Technology before, but did not get any response.
They were completely ignored!
"Sharma, you have to speed up your research. We can't be left too far behind by the Chinese, otherwise we won't be able to report back to China."
As the head of the Tianzhu Space Research Organization, Lahar is under great pressure at this time.
Originally, he thought that with his efforts, the gap between Tianzhu's aerospace technology and China's was getting smaller and smaller.
But now it feels that the gap has not narrowed, but widened.
This is definitely not the situation they want to see.
"If we just launch a satellite to explore the moon, it is still possible in a few years."
"But if we want to build a space station, it is too difficult and it is difficult to complete it within ten years."
"As for landing on the moon, the difficulty of manned landing on the moon is also very high, but if we just use a lunar orbit satellite to launch a spacecraft to land on the moon, it is still possible to achieve it within ten years."
Sharma is still very familiar with the level of Tianzhu's aerospace technology.
Whether you admit it or not, the gap is definitely very large.
Other people's space stations are already there to receive guests, but Tianzhu's space station has not even finalized the relevant plans, let alone when it can be built.
A space station will cost tens of billions of dollars or even hundreds of billions of dollars.
With Tianzhu's current economic strength, it is completely impossible to come up with so much money to build a space station.
Sharma is also very clear about this.
So although he wanted to brag about it, he still acted honestly in front of his boss who knew the business.
"The facts may be like this, but we can't report it to the relevant departments like this, nor can we promote it like this in China."
"More often, we want everyone to see the rapid development of Tianzhu in the aerospace industry."
"Many countries in the world, such as Germany, Japan and Korea, have a big gap in technical strength in this area compared to us."
"We need to adjust some objective situations and promote them."
When Rahal said this, Sharma understood it immediately.
I don't lie, but I can selectively tell some truths.
Tianzhu's aerospace technology is better than Japan, Korea, and Germany. These are all facts.
And these countries have strong economic strength and high reputation.
Tianzhu is stronger than these countries in the field of aerospace, which gives people an illusion that Tianzhu is stronger than these countries.
This kind of publicity technique is very important.
"I understand. We will arrange some personnel to discuss the next step of publicity."
If the technology can't be solved, then we can find a way from the publicity aspect.
However, Cao Yang doesn't care about these things.
Because at this moment, Venusstar Technology will officially start its first major project in the new year.
That is the static test of the Starship rocket.
It is called a static test, but it is not just to confirm the various dimensions of the rocket, but to fix the rocket on an open-air platform and formally test the ignition of its engine.
It can be said that except that the rocket does not fly into the sky, the process of various tests is not much different from the first flight.
"Our Starship has a first-stage super-heavy booster about 69 meters high and equipped with 33 Raptor engines."
"The second stage is a Starship spacecraft with a diameter of 9 meters, a length of 50 meters, and equipped with 6 Raptor engines."
"Compared with Venus 9, it is an order of magnitude larger, and in terms of payload, Venus 9 can carry about 23 tons of cargo to low-Earth orbit, while Starship can carry 100-150 tons of cargo."
"If Starlink satellites are launched, Venus 9 can only launch about 60 each time, and after the second-generation Starlink satellites appear, less than 50 can be launched each time."
"And Starship can launch 360 to 400 satellites."
"In terms of cost control, Starship has no second stage that is discarded after ignition. Rocket. "
"Because as just introduced, the Starship rocket consists of two parts, the bottom is the first-stage super heavy booster, and the top is the spacecraft cabin, which is reusable. "
"And Venus 9 only recovers the first-stage booster, which is a relatively large gap. "
"At the same time, the fuel used by Starship is liquid oxygen and liquid methane, which is cheaper than the liquid oxygen and kerosene of Venus 9. "
"Starship has no fairing, and the fairing of Venus 9 is sometimes recovered and sometimes not, and even if it is recovered, there is an operating cost. "
"So as long as Starship succeeds, it will definitely be the greatest rocket product on this planet. "
Today is the first test of Starship, and Venus Technology attaches great importance to it.
Not only Cao Yang came to visit, but also many other heads of related companies attended.
Even Huaxia TV specially arranged a team of reporters to interview.
In this case, Zhao Siyu must introduce this epoch-making product to everyone.
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