rebirth of cataclysm

Chapter 1340 I remembered

"It hasn't been released yet? That...means our product design is ahead of theirs?" Hu Mingchen said in surprise.

"That's pretty much what it means." Lendani said.

"Then why don't we use 32nm chips?" Hu Mingchen asked, looking at everyone.

"Because 32nm chips have already been used in new products that will be launched next year, we are planning products for the year after next, so we need to design boldly in advance." Chen Xuesheng said.

"Then what can we do? Their chips haven't come out yet, and your designs are ahead of the curve, but what's the point of not being able to make products? Pursuing good products and pursuing ultimate products is something that should be done and is right. I also advocate and support it.

, but to make products that cannot be built, this is... Isn't it too ambitious?" Hu Mingchen felt a little speechless about the needs of these designers and R&D personnel.

I'm not a chip maker, so why don't you let me get you 20nm chips? Even Intel can't do that, so I have no use for it.

"Mr. Hu, there should be a release next year. Those two companies are currently conducting research, development and testing of 20 nanometers. If we place an order now, we will be the first batch of users and have priority in supply.

The key is which one to choose," Najib said.

"What if they can't deliver on time?"

"This is not a problem. Everything has an agreement and contract. If they cannot deliver the goods on time, they will bear huge compensation losses. Our products must continue to lead, continue to become the fashion representative of electronic products, and continue to meet the pursuits and needs of all parts of the world.

Then we can only do bold front-end design and research and development." David said.

"Then which company do you prefer? Is this because we took the initiative to find them?" Hu Mingchen asked.

"We prefer Sanxing. In terms of nanometer research and development and release, according to estimates, they will be two months ahead of Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd." said Ian Winquist.

"I also prefer Sanxing. Technically, they are more mature, and their yield rates last year and this year were slightly higher," said Lendani.

"What about you?" Hu Mingchen asked the others.

"I have no objection. As long as it can meet the design requirements, any company's chip will be fine," Najib said.

"I am also leaning towards Sanxing. We are currently cooperating. Continuing this cooperation will be very beneficial to our stable supply in the future, and we can even get discounts at intervals." David said.

"If you ask me, I would choose Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd., which is also a Chinese company. As long as we place an order, I believe their research and development process will be greatly accelerated. In terms of time, they will not lag behind Sanxing. As for the price, I believe both sides will do the same.

There won’t be any obvious disparity." Chen Xuesheng said.

"Brother Rong, if you were asked to choose, which company would you choose?" Hu Mingchen glanced around and found that Hu Mingrong was silent, so he asked him.

In this kind of technical meeting, Hu Mingrong actually only needs to have ears. He should not express opinions from a professional or level perspective.

But Hu Mingchen asked by name, so Hu Mingrong had to say something.

"If it were me, I would choose Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. My reason is that Sanxing itself has already been involved in the field of smartphones. As a comprehensive electronics manufacturer, Sanxing is engaged in almost every field of the electronics industry. At this time, we

Let’s not talk about whether ordering from them will help them grow and develop. At least, we have already

We tell them our next-stage product technology in disguise, which will be very detrimental to us. On the other hand, Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. is a specialized semiconductor company. They only need to provide chips that match our required process according to our requirements.

But, it's relatively simple." Hu Mingrong made the same choice as Chen Xuesheng.

Unlike Chen Xuesheng, Hu Mingrong gave a more convincing reason.

After listening to all their opinions, Hu Mingchen started thinking.

It must be noted that this is just a business behavior of chip selection. In fact, this kind of business involving billions of dollars has a great impact on the two companies, and it may even be given some other connotations.

"Choose Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Mr. Chen. Since you support choosing this company, it is up to you to negotiate." After a while, Hu Mingchen made the final decision.

"Although we chose to cooperate with Diesel Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. on 20 nanometers, we still need to maintain the relationship with Sanxing. We can even get to know each other better without keeping it secret." Hu Mingchen then added.

"Why is this? And it's not kept secret. This kind of big business, if it's not kept secret, will impact the stock market." David puzzled.

"We are not a listed company, and the impact is not an impact on us. I kept it secret just to leverage the price on the other side so that we can take the initiative." Hu Mingchen explained.

As soon as Hu Mingchen said this, everyone understood that Sanxing was going to act as a lever this time.

Once Die Semiconductor knows that Pengbo Electronics Group and Sanxing are also negotiating for 20-nanometer chips, they will be anxious. After all, the largest customer in the market is Pengbo Electronics Group. Whoever gets this business will be the winner.

A big victory can guarantee your lead in the next stage of the process.

In fact, Intel has started to decline from this stage and has been surpassed one after another. In addition to their slow progress and response in the technical field, it also has a lot to do with the failure to capture large upstart companies like Pengbo Electronics Group.

"Mr. Hu, I have a suggestion." Ian Winquist suddenly said.

"Hmm? What suggestions do you have? I can give you any suggestions here. You can speak freely."

"I mean, in order not to be controlled by others, why don't we make semiconductors ourselves? Although you are a big manufacturing country now, you are not a manufacturing power. Semiconductor constraints are an important factor. We Pengbo Electronics Group has this strength, why not

Get into the semiconductor industry?" Ian Winquist gave his advice.

"Ian Winquistad, your suggestion is simply not feasible. Semiconductors are a cutting-edge high-tech industry with extremely strict requirements for talents and equipment. Moreover, it is not an industry that can see results quickly. It takes a long time.

Accumulation. For example, Sanxing can already produce 32 nanometers, but no domestic semiconductor company can produce 55 nanometers. This industry, unlike other industries, has no such thing as overtaking in corners. Now invest in

If you do it, don’t expect to be able to make 32nm chips within ten years." Lendani objected.

"I also think this suggestion is not feasible at all. We invest huge sums of money in research and development, and it is not as convenient as buying it directly. The investment in the semiconductor industry is very huge, one billion US dollars, two billion US dollars poured into it, there is not much effect at all. Also

One key is talent. There are no talents in this field in China at all. Should we just import them all from the United States? I don’t think the United States will do it either. And without talent, what’s the use of just having money?" Najib followed.

Also pour cold water.

"It is true that if we invest heavily in semiconductors, we may not achieve any results within a few years, but it will be a drag on our profit margins. And there is the photolithography machine. At present, China's technological level is far from being able to produce

That thing, if it is just for manufacturing low-end semiconductor products, it is totally worthless and the gain outweighs the loss." David also objected.

"Today's enterprise development is either diversification or specialization. I think it is better for us to develop professionally. After diversification, we have to start from scratch for new products, which diverts a lot of energy and funds, and the results are not good.

High. According to the current division of labor in the international industrial chain, we actually make the best products.

Yes, integrated circuits can be left to companies with accumulated experience, and each has its own division of labor. Anyway, you can buy what you want on the market. We can't just feed cows if we want to drink milk. Then if we feed cows, can we grow our own grass?

"We can't possibly swallow up the entire industrial chain." Even Chen Xuesheng was opposed to this suggestion.

"Your objections are unreasonable. If we don't enter, then of course we will always have to find others to buy from, and we will never advance technologically. I'm just talking about the semiconductor industry, and I didn't say that we want to take over the entire industry chain. Ours

Isn’t product assembly outsourced? Our display screens are also purchased from Regent Group, our mobile phone cases are not made by ourselves, and our cameras are products from European manufacturers.

There is no requirement to enter, because these can easily find replacements, but semiconductors are different. Take 20 nanometers as an example. Now there are only two companies that can do it. What about going on? What about 16 nanometers? 14

What about nanometers? Or even 7 nanometers? If only one company can do it, we will be stuck. If we don't get it right, we will be stuck." Ian Winquist said excitedly.

"Wait, please stop talking. You just said, what is the name of the company that provides us with the display screen?" Hu Mingchen stopped other people who were about to speak and asked Ian Winquist.

"Regent Group, Mr. Hu, what's wrong?"

"Regent Group, why does this company sound so familiar?" Hu Mingchen scratched his head and said to himself.

"It is a panel manufacturer supported by Pengcheng City. The investor is HK's Regent International. They are still good in the field of panel manufacturing. They used to mainly provide computer display panels, and later cooperated with us to enter mobile phone panels." Chen Xuesheng explained.

road.

"I'm not asking for these information about it. Let me think about it, I seem to have heard this name somewhere." Hu Mingchen frowned and waved his hands.

"The young man we met yesterday is the son of the chairman of Regent Group." Finally, Hu Mingrong added from behind.

"Oh, yes, yes, I think about it, it's him. Haha, I really didn't expect that this company is still our supplier, so I would like to ask, do we have any alternative companies in the field of display screens?" Hu Mingchen

He patted his head and suddenly said.

After remembering such a relationship, Hu Mingchen planned to do something with this company.

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